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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/21/2008 6:07:55 AM   
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I removed the needle and spray bar. I did not flish it with alcohol but I checked that it was all clear and I could blow air through. The fuel is new and I used the same fuel and tank on the test stand with another engine. Could it be both glow plugs are defective? They light up fine.......

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/21/2008 6:27:50 AM   
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What plugs are you running? If they are "cold" plugs you could be seeing your phenomena. Try one in the other engine

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/21/2008 6:52:19 AM   
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I had an old plug in it from years ago (not sure what type) after starting it up and having problems I put a new OS #8 in it and it was worse. A guy at the field gave me a four stroke plug and that was better for a flight, but now it is worse than ever. The other engine I am running is a four stroke also so that may not be the right plug. I thought the OS #8 was a good plug for this engine......

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/22/2008 12:14:36 AM   
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what's the difference beetwen the .61 abc and the ringe besides the $10.00 difference an the slight increse of power? what is the better buy?
Fernando

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/22/2008 12:41:51 AM   
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This is sort of off the wall, but you said that you fired up the engine after not running it for 15 years. I wonder if you had some 'gunk' inside the engine that is now loosening up and getting on the plug as it makes its way out of the engine.

I wonder if a tank or two run on the ground with a something to keep the plug hot might help out a bit?

Just my $.02

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/22/2008 1:49:11 AM   
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I c,eaned the engine well. And now I am trying it on a test stand. I just tried yet another glow plug (Mcoy) and it is the same.

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/22/2008 2:01:01 AM   
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Let us know how it works, Troy01. I'm curious how this will play out...

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/22/2008 2:01:54 AM   
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If the engine has been sitting for 15 years, the problem may be that all the seals/o rings may be perished and sucking air, check all the carby o'rings or replace them.
Hope this helps.
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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/22/2008 2:42:52 AM   
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Running like a champ now. Looks like the new OS #* glow plug was not hot enough and the first plug was not either. I bought a new Mcoy HOT plug and that did it. I mixed them up at first and put the wrong plug back in. Relized my mistake, put the Mcoy in and she is sreaming now!

Thanks guys!


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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/22/2008 5:43:22 AM   
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Can any one tell me which way the conrod sits on a GS45, I accidentially dropped the rod and piston out before i had a chance to notice,didn't really expect it fall right out like that..I noticed the rod has a dimple or punch mark on one side, does this mark face the back plate or do you face it towards the front of the engine?

anyone know what these should turn on a 10 x 6, 10, x 7 as a rough estimate

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/23/2008 3:15:33 PM   
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Hi HaveBlue,

I just took the backplate off my GS045 and I don't see a dimple on the conrod. I presume that it faces foreward. I tried to take a photo but couldn't focus quite tight enough.

I can't recall what RPM's my GS-45 ran with a 10x6 prop, but it was probably somewhere approaching 10K. The GS-45 is not a strong engine. It's good for sport planes though. You might try a 11x5 on it too. An 11x6 might be too much prop for this engine.

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/23/2008 9:17:47 PM   
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Does one end of the rod have a chamfer? That would go against the crankshaft.

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/23/2008 10:55:39 PM   
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That 10x6 is the perfect prop for a ST 45 and you should get about 12-13,000 RPM. The chamfered end of rod goes to the inside of engine so it doesn't rub the radius of crank pin. Ignore the dimple because it may have been taken apart before.

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/24/2008 1:15:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: N1EDM

Hi HaveBlue,

I just took the backplate off my GS045 and I don't see a dimple on the conrod. I presume that it faces foreward. I tried to take a photo but couldn't focus quite tight enough.

I can't recall what RPM's my GS-45 ran with a 10x6 prop, but it was probably somewhere approaching 10K. The GS-45 is not a strong engine. It's good for sport planes though. You might try a 11x5 on it too. An 11x6 might be too much prop for this engine.

Bob


I know what you mean about the performance..I actually like my GS40's much better...this engine will become an experiment, when I get the replacement rod I will run the engine in, and then modify the the liner on the external surface to help air/fuel entry, I will post a thread on the so called porting mods that can be done with some basic tools. It is not really porting as I see it as I am not raising the exhaust port..basically just improving flow of gases into the cylinder..some threads have been posted recently about doing these mods..I am going to put them into real time tests and post the results

As for removing your back plate , thank you for having a look...I am thinking the same because I dont remember seeing the dimple when I first removed mine..I am pretty sure I would have noticed it then

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ORIGINAL: blw

Does one end of the rod have a chamfer? That would go against the crankshaft.


I did look for that, but the rod looks identical from either side apart from the the small dimple/punch mark that's near the big end, there is no apparent chamfer on one side, the bush has a slightly bevelled edge but again identical on both sides, if I had my full internet speed I would post a photo..but my kids have used all my download up and I'm on 56k access till the end of the month...sucks

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ORIGINAL: speedster 1919

That 10x6 is the perfect prop for a ST 45 and you should get about 12-13,000 RPM. .


I get more out my GS40's ..this engine is a bit of a dissapointment as far as ABC design and displacment goes. I owned the GS 40's first, but I guess it's not designed for speed... when I'll put it togeter I'll get my degree wheel on it and check the timing specs, I expect something along the 140 -145 degress

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ORIGINAL: speedster 1919

The chamfered end of rod goes to the inside of engine so it doesn't rub the radius of crank pin. Ignore the dimple because it may have been taken apart before


the rod looks identical from either side..no chamfer that is particular to one side, and this engine is a brand new one that had a big end failure due to lack of enough tolerence between piston and bore during the first break in procedure..thats why I am asking about the dimple on the rod..there is no other clue to suggest which way the rod goes...might have been able to see if the engine had more run time on it ..then I could match up the wear pattern on surfaces to determine which way the rod goes

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 3/24/2008 8:43:38 PM   
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Does anybody know what is going on with Tower Hobbies and Super Tiger? I've been looking at buying a GS-40 for the last couple of months now. On Tower Hobbies web site the stock status was given as late Feb, then Late March, and now it's late April. I would really like to give this engine a try but that won't happen if I can't buy it.

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