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*** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/21/2006 1:43:57 PM   
speedster 1919



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Seems like every engines getting a club following and I searched for ST but couldn't find.
We better start one ! Super Tigre has updated their web site and has added dicontinued model parts listings.
http://www.supertigre.com/

Super Tigre has a carb reputation of rich midrange. Super Tigre web site says all midrange complaints is purely a tuning problem and means the LOW SPEED setting is still a little too rich. Don't argue with me--Do it with ST.........

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/21/2006 1:56:45 PM   
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A ST club member is easily recognised. They are the ones that know better, and thus don't have to run OS's

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/21/2006 2:39:05 PM   
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There is more than enough threads on the Super Tiger, enough to be gettiing sick of it

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/21/2006 3:35:40 PM   
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Got a 51, great engine. Also got a Magnum, OS, TT and Saito. All are good engines.

Cheers,

Chip

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/21/2006 4:18:37 PM   
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I currently have a G21-.46, .45 ABC, (2) .51s, a .61 ABC, K .90, new 2300, new 4500, and a fairly new 3000. All fine engines with fine carbs.

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/21/2006 5:40:39 PM   
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Supertigre, most either love them or hate em'.

My first R/C trainer had a new S-61K ABC powering it back in 1988.

I now have about 15 ST's in my fleet

Mike

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/21/2006 7:58:52 PM   
XJet


 

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I've got several ST90s and I love them/hate them love them/hate them...

The engines themselves are *very* nicely made (albeit you've *got* to check all the bolts before you run them -- a friend has lost two head bolts and several carby bolts because they were only finger-tight from the factory.

I know some won't agree but the standard carby is not very good.

I spent an entire day once, trying to tweak the needles on a well run-in ST90 so as to get a low idle *and* good transition. I could get either but not both. Inspection of the carby shows very well the reason why -- the fuel metering is too restrictive at very small throttle barrel openings if you tune it for a good mid-range. Tune it for a good idle and the mid-range mixture is too rich.

Yes, you can fart around with fuel mixtures that are "just right" (I used 0% and 5% nitro to no effect) and you can try idle-bar plugs etc -- then, if you're *really* lucky, you'll get something approximating a half-pie good setup. But why settle for this when just about every other manufacturer gives you a carby that can be tuned perfectly within about 2 minutes.

And, to prove the point, replacing the carby on an ST90 with an OS or other good-quality unit will transform that engine into a beautifully transitioning beast that also has an ultra-low idle speed and quite a few hundred extra RPMs on top to boot.

I'm sure some will agree -- others will steadfastly deny that there's a problem with the ST carby and say it's just that some folks don't know how to tune them.

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/21/2006 10:42:26 PM   
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Just a little info. on my 3250's. Reading and rereading sooooo many posts on these engines, I still bought one cause I ain't never had any kind of engine I couldn't tune! Uh-Oh! Carb kickin my butt! Since I was going to run it inverted I wanted an easy starter, like my 4 os's. So bought the os7d carb, and like magic, engine ran good. This engine is on a Sig Rascal 110 f.y.i., starting still tempermental, so turned engine right side up. Took out flying and engine died prematurely. Hard landing broke landing gear, so only got two flights in that day. As doing a repair to the plane, put engine on test stand to retune, could not get it to start. Pulled head and I feel like it showed signs of getting scored. Spits, but it will not start. Sent in for repair. [warranty, I hope] Okay in mean time, got big ole plane, no motor, so maybe I order gas motor. After looking at the two bisson mufflers and other tiger stuff I have on hand, couldn't write off ST's just yet. So, I let my two sons know they were buying me a new engine for Christmas, yippee!!Two day shipping got motor yesterday. Put on my bisson muffler with one port plugged and installed original new tiger carb. Install my 18x8 topflite prop and got w.o.t. to tach about 8300 r.p.m., but midrange sloppy, just like my other engine was with same carb. I installed a 20x8 prop I had on hand, and wow! Totally different engine!!Readjusted the high and low needles, now w.o.t. is 6600r.p.m., but transition from idle of 2300r.p.m. to 6600 is flawless!!It seems like this big engine needed more of a prop load on it to use the fuel. Once back on plane and in the air, I may regret my engine choice, but after running 1 1/2 gallons on test stand, I am a happy camper. I'll update my story when I get back in the air.

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/21/2006 11:25:52 PM   
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I have no experience with the new generation Chinese ST's, but I have two Bluehead 60's, one S-61 ABC, and three Como 51's(made by ST for the old World Engines Co.) and have found nothing more reliable or easier to handle. They all have the old style MagV carb which is, in my opinion, one of the finest carbs ever put on the street. The Bluehead is in a special place with me along side my old long shaft Fox .59 as one of the best and most reliable engines I have ever used for either competition or sport flying.

I also have a NIB Chinese made GS .45 ABC which I have never gotten around to running. I do have a few reservations about the piston fit/cylinder taper on it, though. It seems to have significantly more taper and a tighter fit than any ABC I have ever used (including OS ABN, OPS ABC, Rossi ABC, ST ABC, K&B ABC). Looks like it is one that will need to be preheated before starting for the fist time, and then just hope for the best.


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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/22/2006 12:03:58 AM   
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OH Thank YOu, THank YOu, Thank YOU for starting this.
I love, now Love Super Tigers engines. I once hated them when I didn't understand them. This all started when I was wrestling with a 2300, but once I beat that thing into submission I love them and have since bought several more. I believe they are a bargain and if it werent for their afordable price I would be broke. I believe they will last a long time and run very well.
I will list my stable of engines below.

Two 51
90
61 ABC
2300

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/22/2006 12:07:18 AM   
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I have several g90s and a couple of chinese 2300s. All run very well after broken in and tuned. I finally wore out a g90 last summer after 8 years of frequent running - horrible engine!!

Ed

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/22/2006 12:57:33 AM   
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my st 40 runs geat

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/22/2006 12:59:29 AM   
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Count me in!

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/22/2006 3:57:59 AM   
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I have 10 running S/T
2 x 3000
2 x 2000
1 .15 G diesel
1 x 61
2 x 60 G old model sweet engines
1 29
1 51

and I will not allow anybody to tell my big cats they are not supposed to run right
they do with some TLC

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RE: *** CLUB SUPER TIGRE *** - 12/23/2006 2:56:33 AM   
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I can tell you one thing about the 51 and that is it can handle a 12X6 Master Airscrew K Series with authority. It almost spins it at 11,000 on the ground and I estimate it exceeds 13,000 in the air. I was reluctant to run this prop on the little 51 but it proved to me that it can handle it. The thing starts to sing the prop in the air with a little windup. The transition during hover is good to and idle to full throttle is fantastic. If you want a torquey and powerful 50 size engine by all means give it a try at $79 and if you act now you can receive a $10 gift certificate, that is what I did. I believe in squeezing ever dollar for all you can get out of it. THe 51 doesn't have a nickel liner to peel on you either like the OS and others.

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