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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 9/4/2007 7:59:38 PM   
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hey nemo just read your mod for the battery pack it looks like your using a 7.2 volt pack in there? 6 cells x 1.2 ?looks like 6 cells in the picture anyway? is that too much? maybe thats where ur radio problem is coming from. let me know im looking to use a pack also in mine the 2500 aa's are too heavy and im going to get a 5 cell 6 volt or 6 cell 7.2 volt(prob a 6volt) thanks jeff

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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 9/15/2007 4:59:20 AM   
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Hello all, I don't know if it's ok to post this here, but I'm selling a Motorworks USS Chicago, new in the box if anyone is interested. Go here USS Chicago for sale

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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/11/2008 5:29:34 AM   
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Been away from this thread and forum for a while now... Ran my GATOR Saturday afternoon, in a small diving pool that is about 10 feet deep on the diving end. Was the first time I had it in the water in over 8 months! Had to remove a couple of the metal weights from the fins, as it was getting slightly negatively bouyant after it went down deeper than about 4 feet. Took it all the way down to the 10 foot area and let the sub sit on the bottom for a minute. First attempt to get it to come back up resulted in no response from the sub... Had to stick the transmitter antennae about 6 inches into the water...got the vertical thruster to run, but still didn't want to budge from the bottom. Next, I ran the drive motor in reverse and it started to slide along the bottom backwards until the tail raised up off the bottom. Hit the vertical thruster to go up, and it finally started to rise, tail up and nose down! Hit reverse again on the drive motor and up she went, until it surfaced tail first. Recovery was a success! At that depth, the sub was still a little too heavy, and still a bit negatively bouyant.

After that I ran the sub for a good while at 3 to 4 feet deep running it around in circles, occassionally tapping the vertical thruster to keep it at depth and submerged. Was the best run I'ved had with it to date in a pool! The 10 foot plunge to the bottom was the deepest my GATOR has been since I've had it. After this deep dive, it appeared to have NO water leaks! I'm impressed.

Has anyone opened up the drive motor housing on their GATOR or SHARK and examined the electric motor? I am thinking of possibly using the motor and housing as the drive motor for a small static model conversion. Was wondering if this motor is similar to a Speed 180 or Speed 250 motor. There is a little compartment between the motor housing and the prop shaft, that looks like it may contain some sort of reduction gearing, can anyone confirm that? When I run my GATOR I notice the propellor spins faster in reverse than it does in forward motion, so I think the electronics are set up in the sub to limit the power going to the motor for forward running....in other words, I think the sub would be capable of running faster when going forward (propellor spin at higher RPMs), that it currently does, if the same voltage was sent to the motor in forward as it currently gets in reverse.

Again, if anyone has taken the GATOR/SHARK drive motor assembly apart, I'd be interested at what they found inside, such as identifying the motor or found reduction gearing, etc.

Thanks!

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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/15/2008 10:03:40 AM   
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Hello RSEA,

I have the USS Dallas & USS Connecticut, but not the latest Gator/Shark. But if they employ the same drive unit, then I can open one up for you.

The earlier ship Like the Dallas has a transparent housing, but the Connecticut has a yellowish housing instead. I suspect the Gator/Shark would have the similar housing?

I have also noticed the drive motor running faster in reverse, when I resurrected my USS Chicago aka 'The Yellow Submarine'.

The drive motor runs even slower if I apply the side-way thruster motor at the same time. I basically reversed the drive motor connections, so now I have to press the reverse button on the Remote-control to get the sub to go forward.

Here is a photo of the drive motor & the reduction gear. I am no motor expert so cannot tell you what type it is, but I really don't think this motor even with more gearing is going to drive any static dive device. However, it would be great if you can prove me wrong.


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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/16/2008 7:24:44 PM   
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Hi Normanski and RSEA good to see you guys again !

I haven't been buying the Wal-Mart subs lately...just rebuilt my scratchbuild WTC from a fireboat though. (fireboat came from Wal-Mart of course). Gonna be a while before I hit the water.

Keep a zero bubble !

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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/17/2008 2:06:18 AM   
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I've been looking for a Dallas or something like it. Seems i'm late to the party again!
Wal-mart does not carry them anymore. Any one know wher i can get one or a sub for my new pool?
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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/17/2008 5:38:46 AM   
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Unfortunately no more USS Dallas can be found at Wal-Mart, they stopped selling them in 2005. : ( The good news is, the new Wally sub of late 2006/2007 (Shark in blue, Gator in green) handled much better than previous Wally sub ventures (Also there was an intermediate model, Seawolf in gray/ USS Connecticut in green, sold from about 2006 onward).

I haven't seen any Wal-Mart subs this year, but they're still building back their stock from Christmas. I think their subs usually appears in summer I think (and there's usually only one or two in the clearance section by Christmas). I don't know if the Shark/Gator sold that well because of its eccentric appearance, I wonder if they've still got plenty in stock to roll out this year.

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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/17/2008 3:49:53 PM   
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Thanks
I'll hope and keep my eyes open!
MERLIN
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Maybe someone has one they are tired of and wants to sell it! Let me know!

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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/17/2008 4:59:38 PM   
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Hello Crunchyfrog & Merlin,

Good to hear from you guys, too. I have yet to see a Shark/Gator sub in real life. May be they decided not to sell them in Hong Kong!!
Any way, I can still get the Dallas & Connecticut brand new in a couple of shops but they are more expensive than in Walmart I believe. But if you are absolutely deseperate for one & happen to be visiting Hong Kong, I can point you to the right direction. Otherwise, it is probably best to wait for Walmart. Good luck with your Sub-hunting.

Normanski

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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/17/2008 5:38:01 PM   
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I will be selling my USS Gator soon. I bought it last year for my son. We took it to the pool, he played with it for about 5 minutes and then started playing other swim games with his friends and forgot about the sub for the rest of the day. Since he is not interested in it I will be selling it. If anyone is interested let me know. Otherwise you will be able to find it in RCU ads soon. I will wait and see what walmart does this spring before I put the ad up.

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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/17/2008 9:42:48 PM   
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What does the Gator look like?
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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/17/2008 9:49:02 PM   
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look back on page 6. Gulfstream posted some pics there

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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/18/2008 12:16:50 AM   
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I am sure is is posted somewhere but i don't want to look at 15 pages to find it. How much are the subs. Also what kind of batteries do they use??


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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/19/2008 1:43:40 AM   
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For the last 3 years they've sold for $20 here in Texas; and they use 4 AA's in the sub, and a 9v for the transmitter.

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RE: Walmart Submarine = Cool ! Part II - 2/21/2008 4:55:25 AM   
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Nice to hear from all you guys too!

Normanski - Thank you for posting the photo of the reduction gear in your Dallas (I believe it is?). My Gator has a opaque green colored housing for the drive motor. Based upon your photo, mine must have a reduction gear also, though the housing is shaped differently than the one shown in your photo. So the Gator housing does appear to be different than the Dallas one. Since my Gator is in good running condition, I did not want to take the drive housing apart breaking the Silicone RTV seal I brushed onto it a year ago. Think you misunderstood what I meant by "static model". I am thinking about using the gator drive motor assembly as a drive motor (for propulsion, just like it is used for in the Gator) in a static display, plastic model kit...not going to use it to drive a static diving device.

CrunchyFrog - Your screen name always makes me chuckle when I see it!

For all those wanting to see a Gator in motion, in the water, here is a nice UNDERWATER video of one in action (I found this accidentally on YouTube recently):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x608GQd0AV4

I would have taken a video of mine, but I don't own a video camera..

For those that are interested, I posted some still photos of mine almost a year ago on the following pages of this thread.

Bottom of Page 6 = Photos of Gator opened up
Middle of Page 7 = More photos including antenna mods
Middle of Page 8 = A whole series of photos running in the water (no underwater camera shots)

RSEA

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