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Great Planes Seawind Electric Conversion - 1/3/2007 10:30:50 PM   
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I've changed the heading on this thread as no one entered any shots,meanwhile i've built my own and thought if there are any people considering this plane for conversion this may help with your decision.I will add photo's of test 's made as much as possible ,I know I like to see them when people are making claims,it helps to see actual numbers before you spend a considerable amount of money on a project like the Seawind.I've only included information pertaining to the power system and hidden "canopy quick release" :the only mod I did other than go electric is laying in more fiberglass on the bottom both fore and aft of the main fuse former as well as the sides in front of the same former(that added 3 ounces to the plane and it's a must do for flying off snow/ice).

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RE: Seawind electric conversion pics wanted - 2/6/2007 12:35:37 PM   
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Video of seawind electric maiden flight takeoff... 9 sec clip of an electric seawind conversion on it's maiden flight . The URL is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWn3JVCmI1g .This is powered by an axi 4130/16 ,3 blade master airscrew 12x8 , 2 packs of 4s1p evo 3700 mah wired in series (8s1p),castle creations phoenix 85hv esc , No extensive testing but some quick approx. numbers using extrema charger wattmeter and great planes tach 8000+rpm,1.3 h.p. , 42amp full throttle.Weight is approx9 lbs 3 ounces,approx 110 wattpounds(I'll be weighing it on some digitals soon and will post accurate numbers later)Test flight conditions -18 C,wind 30+kph(-30 with windchill-try that with gas).With half flaps on it took about 10 meters to get airborne and despite the wind it flew extremely well with plenty of power and speed .It cruised easily on just over 1/3 throttle.After 2 mins of flight The batteries used just under 300 mah each.It would be easy to fly in high wind conditions if it was warmer ,as this was it's maiden flight I kept it short.When the wind dies down I'll post some better video as well as pics.I'll be posting some pics of the setup including shots of tach and wattmeter soon.It feels like it has the power to haul a set of retracts around easily as well,I'm sure once I test a few different props I'll be able to get even better performance ,not that it's lacking.
It should take off on water on 3/4 throttle,like it does on snow,when the temps go above 0 again I'll try it out,frozen water rudders are no fun.

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RE: Seawind electric conversion pics wanted - 2/9/2007 2:50:59 AM   
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Here's a few numbers from static testing, 1324 watts, 1.77 h.p. ! , 44.49 amps peak,I have flown it 2 more times using approx. 700 -900mah for 5 min flights depending on conditions which have been - 10 to -15 C with winds 20 -30 kph and blowing snow.(5 mins is enough in these winds,fingers get numb).If the wind ever stops I should be able to get 20 mins + flight times.It flew extremely well despite conditions ,takeoffs were in 30 ft. (off snow) and followed by a solid 45 degree climb out - landings were easy but it wants to go long even with power off from the start of the downwind leg till touchdown.It penetrates well but wants to glide forever.I will get some tach numbers next as well as an accurate weight.I am totally happy with this planes power and flying characteristics in windy conditions,it flys like it's on rails as others have said.

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RE: Seawind electric conversion pics wanted - 2/9/2007 3:19:19 AM   
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A few more shots ,sorry for the long range in flight shot ,my photographer stayed in the house where it was warm.... .I'll pull the cowl off and get a few shots of the motor (AXI) and mount (hyperion) as well as the "hidden"canopy latch system,nothing is visible and you can take the canopy off or put it on in less than 5 seconds and it's solid as well as water tight.

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RE: Seawind electric conversion pics wanted - 2/11/2007 11:58:00 PM   
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A couple shots of the tach,the first says 9700 rpm but due to wind and vibration is a bit shaky,the second is taken after 1min full throttle -it reads 9400 .As soon as I find a set of scales I'll measure the thrust and post a shot .Also I have not measured all up weight as I am adding some lights etc. but as soon as i'm done I'll post an accurate number .Going by the bathroom scales while being held it is somewhere between 9 and 10 pounds,I'm guessing less than 9.5. No flying today, whiteout conditions,will the wind ever stop?

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RE: Seawind electric conversion pics wanted - 2/12/2007 12:13:56 AM   
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Here are some shots of the canopy release system,not intended for gas users as is -you would want to find another spot for the line to exit .It starts with a pull of the hidden ring tucked inside the cowl,I put some silicone tube around it to keep it from flopping around and vibrating on the cowl,it works perfect .This is hooked via fly fishing line (floating ,single taper )through the adjacent pulley and goes through the firewall to the next pulley mounted on the former under the access hatch.(you'll note the line guard blocking the view of the cable ,it's made from a piece of steel edging found in a wooden ruler and formed to go around the pulley and attaches to the motor mount)From here it heads down through the pylon and is looped through another pulley at the base of the same former.The pulleys come from Home Depot ,they are replacement pulleys that keep sliding screen doors in their tracks .I used fly line because thats what I had handy,it's very strong ,made for use in water,light,and it floats.I will be using rc boating control rod exit covers for all wiring and canopy release cable through the firewall.The boot that the release cable runs through will be packed with white grease or something similar to keep water out,the motor wires silicone.

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RE: Seawind electric conversion pics wanted - 2/12/2007 1:07:06 AM   
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Next shots show routing of line from pilon base pulley up to carbon fiber "latch rod" where it is tied on the end.The cf rod goes through the mini former where on the other side there is a spring that buts up to a lock collar.From the other side of that lock collar forward is a piece of silicone tubing that acts as resistance against the spring.This goes through the hole where the original dowel was supposed to go and ends up going into the rear canopy former.The front of the canopy has a cf dowel that sticks into a hole drilled horizontally on the edge of the canopy support frame of the fuselage.(I drilled horizontally into the block you are supposed to drill vertically in to).The canopy is placed front dowel in first and then the rear center is lined up and pushed down firmly,the rear canopy hole has a small "ramp"sanded into it to assist in easy latching.When the canopy goes sufficiently low enough the spring automatically latches "solidly".The bootom of the canopy has two small springs placed near the rear of the canopy pushing upward so that when you pull the release the canopy has an assisted lift in the rear(helps with the silicone ),the other benefit is that if you havent locked it securely it pops up when you lift your hand off.You can pick up the plane by the canopy no problems and try to shake it loose,it stays solid.The holes the cf rods go into have been hardened with Ca.glue.The canopy has had a seal made with the "saran wrap and silicone "method .I have sprayed it from all angles with a kitchen sink hose and no water gets in.I still have some sealing to do around the firewall as well as the drain plug(I'm flying without it ,haven't got there yet,may have other plans for it ).

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RE: Seawind electric conversion pics wanted - 2/12/2007 1:20:43 AM   
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Some lighting testing starting to happen,hopefully tomorrow i'll post some fresh video as well as some shots.I don't care about the wind but I gotta see it to fly it, a white plane in blowing snow tends to blend in a bit.I still have about 5 inches of wire to cut out of the batt,speed control system,some left over motor mount to chop off and final mount receiver ,esc,receiver batt etc.Everything has been placed temp.for flight testing so I can play with the Cof G.I need to waterproof the speed control and build a waterproof battery box as well before the ice thaws.

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RE: Great Planes Seawind Electric Conversion - 2/13/2007 1:58:51 AM   
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Some more video shot at dusk today,cross wind take off,fly by and landing ,it can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5w_4elCPrA .If you look carefully you'll see the plane weathervane for a second and then as it acclerates it goes from crosswind to downwind on takeoff,just compare it to the direction it's going when it lands into the wind.

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RE: Great Planes Seawind Electric Conversion - 2/16/2007 7:06:24 PM   
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AWESOME JOB! I was looking at this last summer but got discouraged after I read predominantly bad things (snappy, flies like a brick etc, etc) about its flying characteristics ... but yours looks like it flys awesome!

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RE: Great Planes Seawind Electric Conversion - 2/16/2007 11:37:06 PM   
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Thanks ,I have to admit I was a bit skeptical but decided I would take a chance ,to say I'm happy would be an understatement .It's definitely an all season airplane and would take a set of retracts well. I bought a set of digital scales today to measure the thrust as well as the all up weight,but the included batteries were dead.I'll get some batteries tonight and post some numbers tomorrow,the light weight (stay tuned)makes it float on landing and with a good headwind it lands like my large gliders except it doesn't get bounced around by the wind.I have a new prop( graupner 12.5 x 7) on order and as soon as I get that i'll post the new numbers for that as well.I am continuing on the lighting system ,I do a fair bit of night flying with my 3d stuff and anticipate a lot of low light flights when the winds are down so I want lots.

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RE: Great Planes Seawind Electric Conversion - 2/17/2007 3:26:45 AM   
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Thanks for starting this thread, I have long been interested in this plane. The previous threads seemed to end without clear results and the marketing video did not look impressive.

I know you guys in Canada speek English, but, it's a different kind of English. Would you go into more detail on how you made the removable canopy. You might try to describe it like you were teaching a 10 year old, then I might understand exactly what steps needed to be done to modify the existing canopy. Also, more detail on how you modified other areas to make them waterproof.

Thanks,
al g

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RE: Great Planes Seawind Electric Conversion - 2/18/2007 4:06:27 AM   
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