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RE: axe cp thread - 2/21/2007 5:11:49 PM   
Prontow



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Status: offline 		So are the Carbon Blades worth the money on the AXE CP? Most of my damage on my wood blades are from tip strikes, you know from getting too close to walls, broom handles, trash cans, etc....

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/21/2007 7:37:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just got my Axe Cp yesterday I have to say that I am plesantly supprised at the stability of this rigid heli. It wants to keep pulling to the right. I know this is the nature of scale helis because of the torque of the blades. Is there really any way to counter act this?

Any advice on learning to fly would be greatly appreciated.


If no one has realized I just have to put out a warning. The blades hurt when spinning at half throttle.

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/21/2007 8:01:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey r/cheliman, does it pull to the right while hovering? If it is, and the trim tab does not take it out you might need to adjust your gyro gain. Mine will pull around on the ground until I get it in the air and then it will hold the tail pretty good.

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/21/2007 8:13:26 PM   
r/cheliman


 

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Status: offline 		It pulls mostly on the ground but when its in the air it still leans but significantly less. Do you know which way to turn the the gyro nobs. I am new to this and don't really want to have to sit around and correct my own stupid misakes.

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/21/2007 8:41:25 PM   
Prontow



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Status: offline 		Have you tried to adjust the trim tabs on the radio?

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/21/2007 9:03:46 PM   
r/cheliman


 

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Status: offline 		Yes I have the trim set to counter act it but they are almost all the way to the side and it is more responsive to one input than the other. I know adjusting the gyro will let me center out the tabs but I am not sure which way to turn the nobs.

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/21/2007 11:04:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		RC heliman here's a link to the way I adjusted my 3-in-1 board. BTW my adjustments were way off if yours are close it may be better to use small adjustments.

As for advice on flying. Helis are unique it one very important respect. The same surface (rotor blades) provides both lift and thrust. With a heli cyclic input requires adjustment of the throttle and tail rotor at the same time. When you fly in a horizontal direction (cyclic input) your taking some of the heli's vertical lift and turning it into horizontal thrust. This means the heli will drop so you have to add throttle to maintain altitude, and because your adding throttle you need to input some right rudder to counteract the added torque. This takes a while to master, but knowing that everything is related may help. Also be aware of your cyclic movement. Use small inputs. If the heli starts to slide sideways on the ground throttle down let it settle and try again. Always focus on the nose of the heli to lessen rudder confusion. Lastly I haven't read it myself, but I've heard Radd's school of flight is a wealth of info.

Good Luck

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/21/2007 11:10:10 PM   
r/cheliman


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the advice.

I have realfight G3.5 and have read through Radd's vertical floght school. I have also done a lot of research of learning so that I wouldn't rebuy my heli in spare parts.

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/21/2007 11:44:53 PM   
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RE: axe cp thread - 2/22/2007 7:56:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Messed around with the gyro this morning and was able to get as close to perfect as I think I can.

Just finished flying and got a little to close to the frig. Ruined the trailling edge of the blade. Still flies but with a little vibration. Is this normal for it to keep flying?


Well thanks for the advice and Safe Flying.

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/22/2007 10:58:26 PM   
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I picked up my AxeCp about two weeks ago, and, after a few test hovers, managed to break one of the blade grips. I figured not a big deal, I ordered a bunch of parts and a new set of main blades just in case.

However, now that I have the blades remounted, I can't get the heli off the ground. I'm not really sure what to do next. I've contacted Heli-Max support, and they suggested adjusting the main blade linkages in and out until you achieve lift at teh least possible throttle. I have been going back and fourth adjusting the linkages and ended up snapping one of the ball links off the OTHER blade grip. Grr. Talk about frustrating. I have now, to the best of my ability, repaired and reassembled the whole mechanical assembly (I believe they call this the 'Head').

I only seem to get lift, which, for the sake of testing, is my copter restrained to the ground with less than an inch of play, when I flip the idle up at half throttle. Apparently the pitch then changes, and the copter wants to take off. This of course is infeasible, as I don't even know how to hover sucessfully yet.

I've been told that a pitch gauge is the next step in my repair process, but they're like 50$ for the cheap ones. I realize that repairing it is not going to be cheap in general, but is there anything I can do right now to expidite or properly repair / adjust the main rotor assembly so that I can achieve proper lift? I suppose that I can go and strip down teh whole mechanical assembly and replace almost every part on it, but I believe the worst that really happened in my first crash is the grip getting broken, and MAYBE the flybar getting lightly bent.

If anyone has ideas that might help, I'd appreciate them. TIA!

--Si

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/22/2007 11:56:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		unplug the motor and turn on the tx then plug in the batt. with the motor unpluged the blades won't spin. But by moving the throttle up and down that will change the pitch in the blades. that way you can see where your pitch is. You migth want to unplug the tail motor too. if the picth isn't increasing as you increase the throttle then there is your problem. Now when you click the idle up switch, the motor would go to full and the throttle only controls the picth in the blades.

Sounds like something along those lines to me.

Go to your LHS and ask them to us a pitch guage on it or somebody you know that might fly heli's


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RE: axe cp thread - 2/23/2007 12:04:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		It might fly but viberation will kill a heli. Every see the Myth busters show about helis and out of balance. they killed a Century Hughes 500 5 Blade about $2000.00

They put it in a vise and added weight to one blade. spun it up and increased the throttle and it killed itself. Right there in the vise! Including a boom strike and complete distruction. It killed me to watch them destroy it. Then Grant says "Thats why we can't own nice things"

Plus it makes your screws lose. lol

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RE: axe cp thread - 2/23/2007 12:15:04 AM   
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