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RE: axe cp thread - 6/5/2008 7:06:41 PM   
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From: Pleasant Grove, AL, USA
Status: offline 		Thanks Rotor13B and Pilotlight. You were very helpful. The gyro is working. Can't wait to take it for a test flight. I'm waiting on 2 tail motors from Helidirect to finish my tail mod.

Blade CP - microheli twin tail motor mount (fabricated aluminum boom insert to make it work)
Balde CP - tail rotor gear
Blade CP - tail motors
Blade CP - CF tail rotor

I'm also adding:

Telebee 6g gyro
Align brushed ESC
CF tail boom
CF horiz. and Vertical fins
CF boom supports

I hope the weight of the tail mod will balance out my heli. I'm using an Electrifly 1500mah lipo. 1 oz. heavier than the stock battery not to mention it sticks out the front about 3 inches.

Thanks Again.

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RE: axe cp thread - 6/5/2008 8:04:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JEMFLYER

Does anyone know (not guess, please) the correct angle for the tail rotor relative to the plane of the main rotors? It seems the factory axe cp's have the tail rotor twisted slightly to the right, viewed with the nose pointed away. Is there any reason to set the tail rotor angle other that at 90 degrees to the plane of the main rotors? Thanks for any info.


I won't guess and I don't know, but I can tell you what happens. On most helis, the tail rotor should be perpendicular to the ground (or main rotor plane). As viewed from the rear, some helis tend to hover with the right side (starboard) tilted slightly down. Having the tail rotor tilted a couple degrees to the left can help to straighten it out. Other helis are tail heavy and having the tail rotor tilted a couple degrees to the right will lift the tail a tiny bit so you don't need as much forward trim to stop it from drifting backward.
If your heli is perfectly balanced (ideally they all would be), you normally want the rotor perpendicular so the heli won't drift forward or backward.






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RE: axe cp thread - 6/11/2008 8:47:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Quick Question. Does the 3-n-1 stock gyro on the AXE have any effect on the heli after installing the Telebee Gyro?

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RE: axe cp thread - 6/12/2008 1:58:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turning the gyro gain down on the 3-n-1 effectively disables it. Now I have heard of instances where people have had to have a bit of gain on the stock gyro for the upgraded gyro to get a signal. I used a GY240 and did not have to fiddle with adding gain from the stock gyro.

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RE: axe cp thread - 6/26/2008 6:22:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I screwed up so I went ahead and reposted below. Sorry about that

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RE: axe cp thread - 6/26/2008 6:46:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Your pics aren't showing.

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RE: axe cp thread - 6/26/2008 6:51:00 AM   
dragus359



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Status: offline 		So I thought I'd post here. I just joined this forum a few hours ago and I was looking for some place to post some pics of my Axe. Tell me what u think. I also have vids up on youtube just look for dragus359 and u can see all my vids.

Here are a few links to my videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ugB2T5s7c&feature=user

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toGN9-4v_SM&feature=user

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEE752MDVNU&feature=user

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxKSOUK54lw&feature=user



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RE: axe cp thread - 6/26/2008 9:00:59 AM   
Rotor13B


 

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Status: offline 		Nice vids. How long have you been flying? Also what motor are you using, It sounds more aggressive than the esky motor i'm using. I never thought getting Don (rosella) to come out with the Axe freestyle tail would affect so many people. Kinda cool.

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RE: axe cp thread - 6/26/2008 9:26:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you. I got my start in flying about 2 years ago with a $60 plane that turned out to be an epic failure lol. After my plane lost all ability to fly, I flew on occasion using my brother's plane. I got into helis around November of last year. I decided to put some money into it, so I got an axe cp (big spender, I know lol). Right around January, I got tired of the stock tail motor due to the fact that I burned through three of them by that time and I decided to look into this belt-drive deal that I had been hearing so much about. I ordered the kit from freestyle-hobby soon after that. It took forever to get here, but I'd say it was well worth the wait. Now apart from my all-metal head, I tried to go with the cheapest set up I could find from helidirect. I'm using a 300HDX 4200Kv brushless motor along with a Dynam 25A brushless esc. I don't think I've ever seen any pilot post that as their setup. Must not be something to brag about I guess lol. Yes my motor is pretty aggressive but I think it's too agressive because it's overdrawing, causing crazy overheating that only now is taking it's toll lol. I'm not sure wether or not I was running on hard timing before but tonight I made sure that I switched to soft timing, so granted it's not windy in the morning, I'm gona see if I still have a battery or not. Hopefully nothing catches on fire or explodes haha. Anyway, I hope that fixes the problem and maybe I'll get a few more flights out of that battery.

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RE: axe cp thread - 6/26/2008 9:57:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		As long as it's not puffed and is has around 3volts per cell you should be ok. Does the stock pinion fit that motor and if not what pinion are you using?

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RE: axe cp thread - 6/26/2008 10:18:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		No it pretty much swells up like a hot balloon after every flight. It only started doing that recently though. I've been using it for a few months. As for the voltage, I don't have anything that can read the volts per cell. Yes I am using the stock pinion gear. I tried using other smaller ones, but they just ended up tearing up my main gear because the mesh wasn't quite right. I suppose going down one or two teeth below the stock pinion wouln't cause much of an issue though.

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RE: axe cp thread - 6/26/2008 10:26:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah your either going to have to gear down or go with a higher C rating on your battery. What battery are you using? Also what are your pitch ranges? Too much pitch can cause higher amp draw on the battery also.

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RE: axe cp thread - 6/26/2008 4:17:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yea I'm actually getting ready to buy a 20 C battery. I had a hunch it would help. Well I guess a higher continuous discharge makes sense. Currently I am using an 11.1v Mega Power 3s Li-Po 15C @ 1350mAh. I don't have a pitch gauge, but I've been meaning to get one.

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