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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/17/2007 5:25:27 PM   
PilotLight



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Status: offline 		I've finally found the enemy, and the enemy is us!

The weakest point on my Axe is me. In an effort to increase my skills by increasing flying time, I'm attempting to fly on a simulator more. An inexpensive simulator I found is the Flight Model Simulator which is free on the Internet. The only problem I'm having is finding a controller to work with it. I have a Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 joystick which works very well, however it only has one stick and not 2. You have to twist the stick for rudder input.

I purchased a Recoil joystick controller at Wal-Mart which has 2 analog joysticks and tried to use that with the Flight Model Simulator. The problem I was having with it was the sensitivity is way too high on the joystick. When you pushed a stick in one direction it traveled a quarter of the distance before anything would change, then when you got to half travel on the stick the Sim was showing full travel. As the stick was pushed from half travel to full movement to the edge nothing would happen as the Sim was already showing full travel. I could not find any help on the Internet or any other drivers to help soften the feel of the controller so I brought it back. Too bad, as it was only $14.

Does anyone have any other ideas for a Cheap controller that will simulate dual joystick radio control?

Just using the Sidewinder is helping with side and nose-in oreintation. I just about got it mastered on the Axe.

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/17/2007 7:01:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I use the XBOX 360 controller with FMS you have to DL a special driver for the controller but it works very well and if you have as 360 all you need is to make the usb connector or buy one. Another option is to make the connector for your radio to game port it takes less than 30$ in parts and you have the real deal just like real flight and I have "herd" that you can use that setup with real flight using a dongle emulator program and re-map the control inputs to realflight.

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/17/2007 7:22:15 PM   
outtamyway


 

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Status: offline 		There is another cheap simulator called Clearview that cost $30 and seems a bit more realistic. FMS seemed much easier than the actual model. They have a Blade CP and CP pro model on clearview.

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/18/2007 7:54:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: outtamyway

There is another cheap simulator called Clearview that cost $30 and seems a bit more realistic. FMS seemed much easier than the actual model. They have a Blade CP and CP pro model on clearview.
I use FMS not to get the flying characteristics of a model down but more of an orientation tool. You still have to react to the helis movements just like in real flying even though it might not fly like your model. I figure knowing how to react is better than getting a certain model characteristic down as this would apply to virtually (no pun) all models. Certain things like reverse control when the model is flying at you vs away is valuable for any model.

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/18/2007 8:01:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MsDarla

Radio/Remote Control
lol, Just mesin' with ya.

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/18/2007 1:50:05 PM   
tknowles


 

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Status: offline 		OK just joined this forum. I have recently upgraded my AXE CP to the CNC swash plate and CNC fly bar. The SP is thicker than the original as a result I am unable to to adust the links to get back to zero pitch. I have a call into helimax support. They said that they needed to order up the parts and check to see what I should do. There are two options shorten the connection from the servos or lenghten the one from the fly bar to the blade grips I think the sevo connection should be shortend put will wait for there responce.

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/18/2007 4:00:18 PM   
chaseman81



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Status: offline 		Hey Heli flyers! My Axe CP should be here today. Thanks for all the great information. I want to upgrade the battery right away, better head speed and longer flight times of course.

Anyone heard of this battery>

http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/product_reviews.php?products_id=904&osCsid=50b1244344129c5d23242144044da72e

Energy Power 11.1V 1350mAh 16C/25C
Specification:
¡´Output:11.1V(3S1P)1350mAh
¡´Rating:16C~20C continuous, 25C burst
¡´Dimension:34x65x20mm
¡´Weight:100g

the price is only $31.11 plus S&H $13.?? about $45.00 shipped gonna check LHS and see what they can do Hobbytown Grand Blanc Mi. These guy's are cool!

LMK what you think.

Thanks Chaseman81

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/19/2007 12:38:57 AM   
chaseman81



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Status: offline 		I got it I got it. My Heli came today! I was so excited.... Till I opened the box the heli was fine but the blades covering was split and torn. No way to fly my new bird. Bummer! My LHS will have new blades for me next wensday. Damn.....

Will I had an idea.... What if I took off the covering? So I did. inspected the blades and they seem to fine... So I remembered I had some monocoat covering from my airplane. Decided to try to iron it on....
used the same amount on each blade took about an hour (I'm slow and wanted to do it right )
Long story short I have a purple heli with red Blades (Kinda cool) Have two try's under my belt. and on the second series. I hovered her for a couple three seconds in the same spot. about 9 inches off the ground with training gear of course. I'm still high on that one.. Letting my battery cool abit and back to the charger. Might get a try three tonight. hovering in the house is cool too!

Love owning a heli again. 17 years since my last one Concept 30.

Thought I would share


Chaseman81 "Like a Virgin. Hovered for the very frist time...."

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/19/2007 1:22:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I don't know who said to take the training gear off, but it has saved me lots of times. Without it, the heli would have fell over and surely broke a grip. Instead, it just slides across the floor. I'm not going to take the training gear off till I can hover in all directions including nose-in.

How much better can it fly without the balls? What can the gear do to make it less stable?

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/19/2007 1:37:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't believe I fixed the blades today. but they sem fine or Im to new to know. But I did hover for a few after some trimming her in the blades tracked just fine and since i use the same amount on both blades the seem to be Balanced perty well.

I think is cool as Heli....

Chaseman81

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/19/2007 1:46:09 AM   
chaseman81



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Status: offline 		Im buying the 11.1v lipo 1320 tomorrow at LHS. So I can fly Saturday Night at the mall. Can't wait, they fly the E-flight cp2 and a few others I cant wait. I was so Bummed with my blades covering being split today though monocoat iron on covering is the ticket.

Anyone know how much longer the flight times( who i kidding the Hover trying time) will be with that 11.1 1320Lipo will be?

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/19/2007 2:57:30 AM   
chaseman81



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Status: offline 		WOW!! I forgot how cool Heli's really are. The feeling of lifting off and getting back in one peice.
Here's a couple pictures of the third flight. If you look really hard you can see it's up in the air. (all be it not that high.) You all know what I mean.



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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/19/2007 5:06:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chaseman81

WOW!! I forgot how cool Heli's really are. The feeling of lifting off and getting back in one peice.
Here's a couple pictures of the third flight. If you look really hard you can see it's up in the air. (all be it not that high.) You all know what I mean.


Get that sucker a little higher in the air!!! I swear it's so much easier to control once your about 2-3 feet off the ground. After that it's all depends on where you feel comfortable at looking at the heli while it's hovering. IMO the ground effect makes learning twice as hard and long than if you just get some daylight underneath it.

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RE: Axe CP mods - 1/19/2007 5:40:08 AM