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Throttle servo. I like to use a small, fast and precise servo for the throttle rather than suddenly become fiscally responsible..cheap and use the Futaba 9650 digital. The servo comes with mounting lugs on the body to allow for a variety of mounting methods...but you have to cut them off without cutting the servo wires. Yes, I have cut them "clean" off...very proud moment.
The photos show me scribing the case, breaking with a pair of needle nose pliers and final pass of a mini file completes the task in less than (5) minutes.
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Mounting the MK remote glow plug system. The Zeque has a very tall or deep fuselage profile. How do you access the glow plug? MK makes a product to resolve the problem. The unit features a plastic bodied receptacle mounted with (2) tiny bolts into captured nuts, an aluminum trim ring and a male plug to be connected to a voltage source. Per many MK products, the modeler is left to figure out "how" to make it work.
The real challenge is mounting the recepticle securly while "centering" the trim ring for proper function. The trim ring has a tiny lip to grab. My experience with the unit is that the wires WILL break off. I suggest you replace the ground wire with a silicone wire used for R/C cars and purchase the Tettra silicone wire with protective shield and more robust glow plug attachment clip. Like many special parts, it is not required, adds weight (about (1) ounce) and installation complexity and the potential for maintenance. If you make the modifications that I am suggesting there is NO maintenance.
I make a (2) 1/8" craft plywood mounting plate/spacer first. A note regarding tools to build toy airplanes. Drill bits, drill bits and more drill bits. When I was a kid, I had a sharpened nail to bore all of the holes I needed. I suggest you go to a Northern Tool and Supply and purchase a complete set of lettered, numbered and fractional drill bits for about $80.00. You will save time, produce better parts and wonder how you ever modeled without them.
Accurately determine where you will mount it, triple check considering fuel lines, excess exposure to the elements. I prefer to use blue painters tape to mark lines and bore holes in fragile surfaces. The photos should make sense. I used a black Sharpie for color, green ZAP for fuel proofing and ZAP A DAPPA GOO for mounting to the airplane and the little aluminum trim ring. The white washers are from the back of the EZ connectors (PLEASE NEVER USE EZ-CONNECTORS ON PRIMARY CONTROL SURFACES!!!!!).
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Hey Rusty I am also using the MK remote start for my Genisis. I removed the blue housing, and the heat shrink, applied JB weld to the connection and the added another heat shrink tube to the connector. Then I also added a 1/16 inch piece of medium fuel tubing over the tip of the glow plug, that way once you push down the tip, it will be somewhat soft mounted and should hopefully last longer. By the way I got this information from a thread on RCU a while back, so it is not my info, but figured I should pass it along. See you tommorrow.
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I'm struggling with the Lipo thang. Is it that Lipo set-ups (reg+pack) are dramatically lighter than NiMH or NiCAD? How many flights can you get from a 1320mAH pack? That capacity seems low for the number of digital servos we use. Does the regulator add anthoer failure point?
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Engine installation...The Zeque is designed to use the YS soft mount with the available stand-offs. It is the lightest of the mounts I have used (see previous posts on this thread) and offers a large amount of adjustability. My assumption is that this model will require little to zero adjustments from stock...the engine rotates exactly about the centerline of the crank shaft which mnakes sense. (I am not an engineer or claim to be an expert about physics).
Additionally, I am using the (new to USA) Hatori header support which is yet another fine piece of not modestly priced accessory which one may not need, adds installation complexity which IS and I EXPECT to reduce my header maintenance to zero.
I am leaving for Phoenix (see Phoenix thread) in the morning (2/15/2007) with this COMPLETED model and hope to continue to post all of the details prior to my departure (returning 2/28/07), although I may simply run out of time. To this point I have covered many of the components and installation techniques of potential interest.
The thread will feature all relevant details until completetion including a detailed flight report! As Derek Koopowitz (NSRCA President)often writes...exiting the box.
(Some of my photos still seem to be out of focus.)
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Regarding Lipo batteries...I am very slow to embrace new control system and battery technologies. I became VERY comfortable with them last summer at the NATS flying with Rusty Fried. Rusty tends to have a lot of conviction (nice way of saying stubborn) and IS a fierce competitor who has no patience for anythiong that would risk his models (my opinion). He had been using the ThunderPower lipos in his electric models. Others had told me about them, but I need to see and get comfortable in my own way.
Dave Lockhart, fantastic sportsman, modeler, and F3A pilot uses a redundant 480 mah (2) cell lipo and dual regulators to meet his expectations of comfort.
I understand an electric F3A model will only use about 45 to 50 mah per flight where as a glow model may use 3 to 4 times this amount. I will measure voltages after each flight until I develop experience.
Weight is probably NOT a primary consideration due to the added requirement of a regulator which is an entirely other subject and area of contention. A newly charged ni-cad, clearly is "hot" the first flight or so...recent history has had me use a regulator to remove the airplanes "I had 24 cups of coffee feel". Curiously the photos of the Japanese models show nicads...factory stock varieties. Odd to me, a crazy tail wheel and still the use of ni-cads?
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Additionally, I am using the (new to USA) Hatori header support which is yet another fine piece of not modestly priced accessory which one may not need, adds installation complexity which IS and I EXPECT to reduce my header maintenance to zero.
Rusty,
Don't be fooled by the header brace, I've been using mine for over 6 months now. Yes, it reduces the chance of header shifting around, but the hex nut that tightens the brace to the engine will come loose, I've to keep checking it every 20 - 30 flights.
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In case you guys don't get over to see my electric Zeque thread, I received this C/G drawing from Mr. Suzuki (Zeque Designer) of S2 Product in Japan and will post it here as well.
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I was wondering if there is any advantage to using the spring loaded pipe mounting system that I've seen used for holding the Hatori 821 in place as opposed to the pipe mounting brackets(silicone tubing system) that is already provided with the Hatori 821 pipe ??? Seems like alot of extra money if no advantage or need.....please advice.
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