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Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 6:00:41 AM   
neilt6


 

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From: Tofield, AB, CANADA
Status: offline 		Hey all! I've been seeing a lot of mod questions in the forums so I thought I'd prepare this guide. Ahem!! AHEM!!!!!!!! AHEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok ready! Here goes:

The Ultimate E-Flight Blade CX2 Mod Guide (Version 1.8)


Structural

----Stersman's Tail Boom----
-Lowers Weight
-Reduces Resistance
-Improves Wind Handling
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PM: Stersman
E-Mail: jamie@boomtownhobbies.com
URL: http://www.boomtownhobbies.com
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----Stersman's Skids----
-Improves Durability
-Absorbs Impact
-Prevents Bouncing
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PM: Stersman
E-Mail: jamie@boomtownhobbies.com
URL: http://www.boomtownhobbies.com
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----Assorted E-Flight Bodies-----
-Improves Look
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URL: http://www.e-fliterc.com/
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----Dimension Engineering EasyLights-----
-Makes a Great Searchlight
-Improves Looks
-Fly in The Dark
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EasyLights: ~$15.00
URL: http://www.dimensionengineering.com/EasyLights.htm
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----LiGlow V2 Light Kit-----
-Realistic Strobing Navigation Lights
-Improves Looks
-Fly in The Dark
-LiPO Low Voltage Alarm
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LiGlow V2 (Partially Assembled): ~$40.00
LiGlow V2 (Fully Assembled): ~$50.00
URL: http://www.tjtrc.com/LiPoV2.html
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Motor

----Dynam Vortex Motors----
-Increases Power
-Decreases Noise
-Decreases Temperature
-Decreases Battery Drain
-Cost Less
-May Require Break in
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VTX-018 (Both Motors): ~$8.00
URL: http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id=A1972394
URL: http://www.slickzero.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=VTXParts
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----Xtreme Production's E-Sky Lama Bearing Motors----
-Increases Power with Silver Brushes (Optional)
-Decreases Noise
-Decreases Temperature
-Decreases Battery Drain
-Last Far Longer Than Stock or Vortex
-Cost Considerably More
-User Replacable / Exchangable Brushes
-Silver Brushes Option for 30% More Torque
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ESL-001 (Left Motor): ~$16.00
ESL-002 (Right Motor): ~$16.00
URL: http://www.miracle-mart.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=110&zenid=f6e2eda2b13780d57cedc33aa40737bd
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----Main Motor Heatsink----
-Improves Looks
-Lowers Motor Temperature
-Lengthens Motor Life
-Extra Weight
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EFLH1208: ~$4.00
URL: http://www.e-fliterc.com/
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Radio

----Spektrum DX7 Transmitter----
-Control 4-in-1's 6th Channel
-Substantially More Range
-Programmable Mixing
-Expensive
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SPM2712-250: ~$350.00
URL: http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPM2710
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Mechanical

----Micro Heli Aluminum Swahplate----
-Improved Looks
-More Durability
-Extra Weight
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MH-CX012: ~$27.00
URL: http://www.microheli.com/mhshop/index.php?cPath=97&osCsid=36f08bc9d1fc540eb10be8692c9ed46f
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----Micro Heli Aluminum Lower Head----
-Improved Looks
-More Durability
-Extra Weight
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MH-CX002LHB: ~$25.00
URL: http://www.microheli.com/mhshop/index.php?cPath=97&osCsid=36f08bc9d1fc540eb10be8692c9ed46f
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----Micro Heli Aluminum Upper Head----
-Improved Looks
-More Durability
-Extra Weight
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MH-CX065: ~$20.00
URL: http://www.microheli.com/mhshop/index.php?cPath=97&osCsid=36f08bc9d1fc540eb10be8692c9ed46f
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----Micro Heli Aluminum Blade Grips----
-Looks Awesome!!
-Extra Weight
-Fly Like Crap Unless Properly Modified
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MH-CX002BG1 (Lower): ~$30.00
MH-CX002BG2 (Upper): ~$30.00
URL: http://www.microheli.com/mhshop/index.php?cPath=97&osCsid=36f08bc9d1fc540eb10be8692c9ed46f
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----Micro Heli Aluminum Bearing Housing----
-Improved Looks
-More Durability
-Extra Weight
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MH-CX027: ~$6.00
URL: http://www.microheli.com/mhshop/index.php?cPath=97&osCsid=36f08bc9d1fc540eb10be8692c9ed46f
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----E-Flight Aluminum Upgrades----
-Same as MicroHeli
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URL: http://www.e-fliterc.com/
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----Dynam Vortex Shafts-----
-Decreases Blade Clacks
-Cost Less
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VTX-003 (Inner): ~$5.50
VTX-004 (Outer): ~$3.50
URL: http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id=A1972394
URL: http://www.slickzero.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=VTXParts
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----Dynam Vortex Flybar----
-Increases Power
-Decreases Noise
-Improves Response
-Costs Less
-Adjustable Weights
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VTX-002: ~$3.00
URL: http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id=A1972394
URL: http://www.slickzero.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=VTXParts
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----Hirobo Lama XRB Flybar Paddles----
*Remove Paddles from Flybar. Add Them to Stock Flybar*
-Improved Looks
-Better Responsivness
-Improved Stability
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0301038: ~$9.00
URL: http://www.helihobby.com/html/LAMAXRB1.html
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Power

----Mega Power 15C 850MaH Blade CX 2-Cell 7.4v LiPO----
*Recommended Battery*
-Larger Capacity
-Fits Stock Battery Mount
-Fits Stock Charger
-Costs Less Than Stock
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MP850152STK (Fits Stock Charger): ~$17.00
MP850152 (Won't Fit Stock Charger): ~$17.00
URL: http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=2108
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----DN Power 10C 900MaH Blade CX 2-Cell 7.4v LiPO----
-Larger Capacity
-Fits Stock Battery Mount
-May or May Not Fit Stock Charger
-Costs Less Than Mega Power
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DNP10C9002S: ~$16.00
URL: http://www.readyheli.com/DN_Power_2S_7_4V_900mAh_Battery_p/dnp10c9002s.htm
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----Any 3-Cell 11.1v LiPO----
-Larger Capacity
-Substantially More Power
-Won't Fit Stock Battery Mount
-May Fit Stock Charger
-Costs More
-Decreases Motor Life
-May or May Not Smoke 4-in-1
-Motor Heatsink Necessary
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----FMA Direct CellPro 4S Balance Charger----
-Safely Charges Batteries in 50 min vs 2 hours
-Can Charge Pack Immediatly After Discharge (No cooling needed)
-Can Restore Overdischarged Packs
-Idiot Proof Automatic Charging Method
-Requires E-Flight Node Adaptor or Battery Pack Balance Node Change
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LIPOCH4S03: ~60.00
LIPOCH4S03-A123 (A123 Compatible): ~65.00
URL: http://www.fmadirect.com/
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***Note that This Guide is Frequently Updated***

Authors
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-NeilT6

Special Thanks
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-makatron
-bulls
-bigbore
-heyok

< Message edited by neilt6 -- 2/14/2007 5:52:22 PM >
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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 7:27:12 AM   
bulls


 

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Can you guess what the $$$ might be for these up-grades ?

Much of it sounds real worthwhile..

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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 7:57:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Neil, here is a 900 mAh LiPo for $16 DN brand. I don't know how good they are but IIRC there is plenty of info if a search is done.

Lon

http://www.readyheli.com/DN_Power_2S_7_4V_900mAh_Battery_p/dnp10c9002s.htm

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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 3:44:00 PM   
neilt6


 

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Status: offline 		Awesome! thanx for the tip, I was just about to order a Mega Power, but this one looks better!

*Guide Updated*

*New Version 1.2*

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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 4:13:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Does anyone have any pointers on how to the setup the CX with DX7. I would imagine you would need the AR6100 receiver instead of the AR7000. Also, would the receiver from the CX2 work with the DX7 or is it complete different?

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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 5:33:32 PM   
p01rogue



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Status: offline 		Would a three cell battery not fry the 4-1 and make short work of the motors as well??
I'm tempted to try but not to fussy on the idea of burning up a 4 in 1.


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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 8:07:46 PM   
neilt6


 

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Status: offline 		The reciever in the CX2's 4-in-1 is an AR6100 with slightly altered servo pins (A few connect to the mixer board). If you want to use the DX7 there was a thread listing all of the variables that needed to be entered. Other than that, a CX2's 4-in-1 would be all you need!

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ORIGINAL: pstreck

Does anyone have any pointers on how to the setup the CX with DX7. I would imagine you would need the AR6100 receiver instead of the AR7000. Also, would the receiver from the CX2 work with the DX7 or is it complete different?


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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 8:10:17 PM   
neilt6


 

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Status: offline 		Someone on these forums runs 3 cells all the time and doesn't have any problems. He says he's researched the 4-in-1 and found it rated to handle 3 cell packs. My theory is that E-Flight uses the same ESCs in all it's products. Anyway it would definatly shorten the motors life, but at $8 for a vortex set. well....

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ORIGINAL: p01rogue

Would a three cell battery not fry the 4-1 and make short work of the motors as well??
I'm tempted to try but not to fussy on the idea of burning up a 4 in 1.



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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 9:57:10 PM   
bzinfinity



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From: Roswell, GA, USA
Status: offline 		Well, I posted this in the previous thread, but it was overlooked I supposed.

Buyer / User beware on the 11.1v cells on a CX2.

I have seen a 4-n-1 completely fried (smoking) through use of the 3 cell packs.

In both cases, the heli would fly like a monster for about 2 minutes (even under normal power levels, I'm not saying it was being flown hard) and then the 4-n-1 just smoked out, wrecking the heli in mid-air.

Yours may or may not do it. I don't know, and I really don't care enough to test it on MY personal 60$ 4-n-1.

Someone on the boards said he had good luck with it, my friend did not, it seems to be a risk you have to take on a case by case basis, I guess.

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I wish Bic made an electronic Piezo lighter attachment for my servo channels so I could shoot bottle rockets off my Airwolf.

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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 10:42:06 PM   
neilt6


 

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Status: offline 		Hmmm..... Interesting. Perhaps some of the older 4-in-1 units used lower voltage ESCs. I'm not sure, in that case it seems to be some 4-in-1s are 11.1v certified and some are not. Are you sure he wasn't flying a CX's 4-in-1?

Either way in light of this new info I'm upgrading my guide and am going to allocate the $70 I could spend on a new 4-in-1 for trying a 3 cell pack on a CellPro 4S LiPO Charger.

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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 10:51:25 PM   
neilt6


 

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*Guide Updated*

*New Version 1.3*

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RE: Ultimate CX2 Mod Guide - 1/21/2007 11:30:54 PM   
bzinfinity



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Status: offline 		Older units?

The CX2 is not even 2 months old, I'm not sure how much "older" or how many newer version 4-n-1's could possibly be released yet.

Also, a CX 4-n-1 will not operate a CX2, the 2 runs on the spektrum radio. He would have had to swap his whole setup, and I know he is using stock equipment.

I'm not saying don't do it - I'm just saying that there are risks that may be associated, as with any modification.

BTW - Good guide so far!

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