I have holes in the fuse sides that I put a wood dowel and hang it from without the hatch on. It is just back from the leading edge of the wing tube. If yours is framed the same as mine, the hole is 3/4 of a inch back from the leading edge of wing block. I'm pretty sure this is balanced pretty aft. I am a little nose heavy from there. I bought mine used also and I do not have plans to check what they recomend. I was told it should weigh around 19 lbs. I do not have a scale to verify this. It is alot lighter then my 30% extra I have been flying. It has a 3w 85 twin, menzs 26/10 and 4721 jr servos all around.
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That is a good looking plane. I bet that 85twin pulls the hell out of it.
Mine has a 3w70i, 24x8 prop weight is just over 20 lbs.
I had a buddy help me tune the motor today,.and I flew it. It ran pretty good,.flew about 8 minutes. It deadsticked on landing right as I was touching down. It still has an issue. we think it is going to be the reed. i am going to get a carb rebuild kit and new reed then try again.
I totally forgot about checking to see where it is balanced at. will check that out tommorrow.
Nice plane also! Your 70 should almost have the same power as my 85twin does. I flew mine for the first time last night. The first flight went good except for a deadstick as I was about to land. The second flight deadsticked when I was on a vertical upline about 150 feet up and I managed to get it on the ground in one piece. I had the line off the carburator diaphram melt on the exhaust. I flew it today and it all went fine. It flies a lot better than my 30% Carden Extra which surprised me. I am sure it has something to do with the fact that the cap is 4 pounds lighter.
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Looks like we lost a couple posts from the RCU crash so I will repost this...
My cap is balanced right at the leading edge of the wing tube. It flies like it is on rails, and it slowed down very good on landing and was very gentle.
I still have an issue with the enigne though. I did order a new carb block, reed, and also a rebuild kit for the carb. hopefully that will fix my problem.
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this is probaly a stupid question but with the proper placement of lightening holes etc. could this aircraft fly and do imac on a da-50 if it was kept light? I know there are QQ yaks that fly on the 50 that weigh in at 18lbs and they seem to do fine but i figured i would just throw this out there b/c i would love to get a carden cap. THanks guys
Hi all im about to start building my 30% carden cap. Im new to giant building and setup. If you guys can list me your setup and maybe somme pics that will be very helpfull...
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OK folks. I need some honest opinions both good and not so good.
I'm not much of a build person though I have done a couple of SIG kits which are pretty much drop the glue bottle in the box, shake well and out pops an airframe. I do have tons of ARF expereince meaning I have "improved" several ARF's in areas I felt they were needed
I'm a huge Cap fan and have been eyeing Cardens for a little while now and now that this plane is back in kit form.... What are everyone's feelng about someone fairly inexpereinced to kit building doing this plane. I am really liking the lines of the Carden Cap and as far as hardware goes like engine, servos and such I am already covered in that area.
Are the wings built up of faom sheeting like most of the other Cardens I have read about. I did not see any pics of them in this thread
Thanks everyone and please don't be afraid to be blunt...
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I've built two cardens and am contemplating a 30% cap as well. They are not "difficult" to build but they are not add glue and fly either.
They take a good deal of planning, and familiarity with that type/size to begin with. If you know what your going after it makes the plane much easier to build. They are not laser cut and they do not interlock like some kits - meaning everything you glue in has to be set square and double checked by the builder etc... Lots of the options are left to the builder - so have an idea going in what you want out of it - IE servo locations in the wing etc...They are not do step 1.2.3 type planes.
Sheeting the wings/stabs etc... turns a lot of people off, I didn't care much for it either - but the second one went much better when I could cut out the ailerons/elevators with a band saw. You'll need lots of clamps/squares etc... and a bandsaw for cutting the ailerons/elevators makes things much easier in my opinion. There's a lot of weight in a stock built carden (any carden in my experience) and knowing where you can safely knock off the weight comes thru experience and by looking at other's planes.
Go to the carden site and look on the menu at the very bottom are two detailed builds of cardens, these will give you an idea of what's involved.
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