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Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/3/2007 4:42:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone play with the Nikkor 10.5mm? Although I didn't mess with any basic settings, here are three versions of the same photo from when I tested the 10.5mm lens in one of the local camera stores and "clicked" the quick correct box in Nikon Capture Editor 4 (I don't have NX): Uncorrected, corrected, and corrected showing extra data. If anyone has any examples of this lens in R/C and/or architectural useage (I already have a 17-55mm), would you post a few. Thanks.




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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/4/2007 3:42:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		About the only thing I have found the super short focal length lenses good for is "special effects"

Without the correcting plugins, you will pretty much always get the FISH EYE effect.

If you absolutely need to take a wide coverage of a subject and a really limited space to back up into, the effect can be manually corrected in almost any version of PHOTOSHOP, by useing the SCEW plugin.

If you need help with that, give a yell.


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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/8/2007 5:23:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't mind the fish effect since that is one reason I'll probably get the lens. And since the Nikon program I own will already "correct" the lens, I'll probably continue to use that program though I own CS2. Upgrading to CS3 however is still a toss up. I simply like the available options though I am still interested if anyone has used the lens for architectural useage or if they simply picked up one of the ultra-wide angle lenses: Nikon 12 - 24 mm f/4, Tokina 12 - 24 mm f/4, Sigma 10 - 20 mm f/4 - 5.6 and Tamron 11 - 18 mm f/4.5 - 5.6.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-wide-zooms/comparison.htm

http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/nikon_articles/nikkor/af/wide_angles_shootout/index.html

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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/8/2007 7:39:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was into photography many moons ago and it seemed that a lot of achitechtual photographers had perspective shift lenses to control distortion. This thread prompted me to go to the Nikon USA site and noted that they don't even make one anymore. Is this due to the widespread use of imaging software? Good luck in your decision.

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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/8/2007 11:27:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		True Enough! The "fish-eye" lens has its place. Not neccessatily to everyones taste, but nevertheless, it is there! Keep one thing in mind though, " ... ANYtime that you depend on an AUTOMATIC adjustment ... the chanses are that not everyone will AGREE with the change. Try, if you will. to take an image of a person with the color --- not the way you want it. Now, use the AUTOMATIC color correction filter in Photoshop.

Uh UH! No, No, No! Nine out of ten times, the ajustment will not be to your liking. As I have said more than one in this area, "LEARN" how to do whatever you want to do, MANUALLY. At least you will have a fighting chance at having it come out the way YOU want it.


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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/9/2007 4:57:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I do figure that if I try to stitch a few photos together that I probably could not rely on the automatic settings to straighten out the 10.5mm photos. Then again, if I have to stitch photos together, I could probably just use my 17-55mm--a lens I do like. For example, the following "handheld" photo looks pretty darn good in my opinion. Then again, I'm bias since I took the photo.



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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/9/2007 8:08:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a 10.5 but only use it for the "fish eye" shot. Given you lose a lot of data to correct you're better off with you 17mm end of your zoom. As for achitechtual work, this isn't the tool. Here's what you need http://www.nikon.ca/products/pc-micro-85/ . Now that's 85mm so you have to get a lot further back lol! I''ve attached an image where I though the 10.5 work.

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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/9/2007 9:50:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hah! Talk about stiching images together..

I have a file that is comprised of 5 different shots.

It is a straight-on shot of a building here locally and its surroundinss. IF I CAN FIND IT, I'll dig it up tonite & post it over the weekend.

Try and guess where the images were all joined..


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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/10/2007 2:21:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: shaunrbell
I have a 10.5 but only use it for the "fish eye" shot. Given you lose a lot of data to correct you're better off with you 17mm end of your zoom. As for achitechtual work, this isn't the tool. Here's what you need http://www.nikon.ca/products/pc-micro-85/ . Now that's 85mm so you have to get a lot further back lol! I''ve attached an image where I though the 10.5 work.

Shaun Bell

I like your 10.5mm photo. The people I have ran into in the architectural/real estate field have been using the Nikkor 12-24mm, though I would prefer to stay with 2.8mm glass just for the low-light capabilities. http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5&productNr=2144 And though you brought up an 85mm, I already own the 70-200mm F/2.8 VR.

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Hah! Talk about stiching images together..

I have a file that is comprised of 5 different shots.

It is a straight-on shot of a building here locally and its surroundinss. IF I CAN FIND IT, I'll dig it up tonite & post it over the weekend.

Try and guess where the images were all joined..


marwen1

Looking forward to it. Who knows, perhaps I'll just pick up the 10.5mm F/2.8 to play with and stitch photos taken by the 17-55 F/2.8.


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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/10/2007 2:44:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've got the 70-200 too, but the 85pc really is a cool lens. I own just about every "pro lens" nikon makes but still don't have the 85pc.... maybe I should just buy it lol. A lot cheaper than buying at large format with all the pans and tilts. But I did order a Hassy 39D....you can use the back on any of LF cameras out there. Hmmm, just don't know lol.


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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/11/2007 6:40:08 AM   
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But I did order a Hassy 39D....you can use the back on any of LF cameras out there. Hmmm, just don't know lol.


Shaun

As in H3D-39? So why would you order a $32K camera instead of a $1K+Change lens? Serious sponsorship? For some reason though, I probably couldn't use a Hasselblad to take a photo like this one I took tonight of a heli taking in some night flight.

.3s at F/2.8
ISO 1250
No flash / handheld




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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/11/2007 4:30:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yup H3D-39. It's for work though. Can't wait to see how it does in the heli with a kenlab gyro attached. As for large format view cameras and tilt shift lenses....I don't really need either. Just a gear junky sometime lol.




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ORIGINAL: shaunrbell
But I did order a Hassy 39D....you can use the back on any of LF cameras out there. Hmmm, just don't know lol.


Shaun

As in H3D-39? So why would you order a $32K camera instead of a $1K+Change lens? Serious sponsorship? For some reason though, I probably couldn't use a Hasselblad to take a photo like this one I took tonight of a heli taking in some night flight.

.3s at F/2.8
ISO 1250
No flash / handheld





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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/11/2007 4:58:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		One of the guys at the airfield yesterday apparently does a lot of cinemaphotography, but he had a Canon camcorder mounted on his heli (or at least one of the helis). Although I took a couple of photos of it, I haven't gotten around to looking at them yet; however, here are two more photos from yesterday--one's slightly blurry since I unexpectedly panned into something and still tried to make the shot.



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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/11/2007 5:16:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I shoot out of the full size heli's. I have a friend who does aerial work from a Benzin sp? trainer. Looks pretty cool but I don't think it would lift my gear lol. Plus, I'm just getting into rc helicopters. BTW, man the heli is low!

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RE: Nikkor 10.5mm wide angle - 2/11/2007 5:32:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		The person flying the inverted heli also flies full-size helis and planes. And he also gives R/C heli lessons, but he is out of Southern California. The cinemaphotographer I met had some turbine powered helis--perhaps, I'll get more info from him today since I am headed back to the airfield. Later.

Edit: This afternoon didn't go as well since it was pretty windy at the airfield. I was just checking and if I get the 10.5mm, some of the other stuff has to stay at home. By the way, one of the pilots was only FOUR years old.