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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/14/2002 5:56:02 AM   
gjsinke


 

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From: Norcross, GA,
Status: offline 		I'm not familiar with this heli and want to see if any of you are. Good, bad or otherwise. How does it compare to the Fury?

Jim

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/14/2002 6:27:19 AM   
lowninverted



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From: Sanford, FL, USA
Status: offline 		I am a lover of Minature Aircraft machines and live 35 minutes from them... after seeing a quick at Festival of Giants in Deland, the quick is very impressive and have now seen it fly... more impressive.

my only concern is parts availability in 3+ years when it wears or bounces (after all, they all have a built in expiration date, don't they)

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/21/2002 1:09:56 AM   
gjsinke


 

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Status: offline 		Anyone else have any experience with the Quick 60 Pro or HHI? Does HHI read this forum? I am concerned about replacement parts and customer service as well as the quality and performance of the Quick. Again...how does it compare to a Fury?

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/21/2002 1:40:33 AM   
DavidH


 

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Status: offline 		I guess everyone is tired of these marathon post that get started when you ask the question your asking. Go to the forums and do some research by searching the archives on the subject.
Also you can go to [url]www.rchelicopters.org[/url] and he has reviews on helis and hobby shops there.

Happy reading and lets us know what you decide and what you find out

David

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/21/2002 2:05:35 AM   
Scotty740



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Status: offline 		Jim,

David pretty much said it all in his post. Check out the reviews at rchelicopter and make your decision from there.

You may not be aware of it as you are new but this is a highly explosive subject in Helicopter forums.

Constructive and informative posts are welcome in this thread but the moment it gets out of hand it will be locked down.

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/21/2002 11:48:03 AM   
gjsinke


 

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Status: offline 		David & Scott,

GEEEZ guys...let me start off with an apology for stepping on your forums sensitive little toes! I don't understand why asking a question about experience with a single model and it's manufacturing rep. would create replies that may alienate an innocent newbie from pursuing this hobby, at least in this forum. I can see where posts such as 'where's the best place to buy parts' or 'whats the best set-up' or 'CCPM or not' or 'Is the Ninja a good heli ' or 'Raptor or Nexus?' to name a few currently in this forum, could become potentially 'explosive' topics, as everyone has their 'favorite' or 'my set-up is the best' opinion. Yet not one has the STAY AWAY...DO YOUR RESEARCH ELSEWHERE...YOU ARE OUT OF LINE HERE replies as I have received here. As well I am threatened my post may become 'locked down' the moment it gets out of hand, AFTER ONE POST PRIOR TO DAVIDS? What gives here. I thought this forum was designed for asking questions and now I'm informed by the Moderator that 'constructive and informative' posts are welcome here. WHAT...NO QUESTIONS? Perhaps it's a figment of my imagination yet I see more questions posted here than anything and have seen posts go to multiple pages!

Prior to my initial post I had read the (http://www.rchelicopters.org/) reviews and found them to be somewhat incomplete and/or biased. I understand there may be as many opinions as there are people and need more input to conclude my research. I may be a newbie to heli's, and this forum, but I am a 20 year veteran to RC flying and know how to research the subject. That's why I came here to ask you PROS! If I want to learn tennis I will find someone I can learn from and not depend on Jack Anonymous (or a factory rep in disguise) with a review of how to play the game. I don't read one editorial and consider it gospel! Perhaps this should be a forum for PROS ONLY and disallow any silly little questions regarding experience on a single model from newbies.

David and Scott...please explain to me where I am out of line here...I will comply as I was excited to find this forum and want to better myself and the hobby...but thus far it seems to me you are the ones out of line here. And to think I used to want to be a Moderator when I grow up!

Thanks to those of you who emailed me directly. I appreciate your input, experience and suggestions. I can only imagine after David and Scotts replies, you didn't want to be labled as potential participants in the feared 'marathon' mania and blackballed from this forum, to reply here. So much for promoting the 'ultimate' RC forum.

Regards,

Jim

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???? did i miss something - 2/21/2002 2:34:20 PM   
Unstable



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Status: offline 		i dont think anyone was complaining to you about your conduct here.

I think scott and david saw a potential for a "holy war" here so they made note that this kind of question could get ugly quick.
(trust me, I'm a computer geek... we know about "holy wars" (vi vs Emacs anyone?))

I also belive that the warning about "locking" down this post was directed at the rest of the people here... those most likley to start a flame fest

also nobody told you to stay away.... in fact you were acually invited to share your decsision and your reasoning when you made up you mind
(I may have only been here a short time but this place seems to be quite freindly esp to newbies)

of course it could also be that its past my bed time and im still online talking about this addic^H^H^H^H^H^H hobbie

-- Chris " vi forever " DeBlass

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/21/2002 5:29:12 PM   
bigbri


 

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Status: offline 		Not an unreasonable question at all.!!!!!! Lets face it we all know how accurate those mag. reviews are. They take the adversitising cash and then dance around the truth in the reviews. EVERYTHING is a GREAT deal. EVERYTHING flies GREAT, We have seen how accurate they are with the Kyoshio F-86 ducted fan model. It is a dog and cannot even get off the ground most of the time, It comes with a long list of changes and "improvements" to make in order for it to fly "better" (how about at all) which include changing to a better engine and fan combo!!!!!!!!!!! But the mags LOVED this on also.
Sorry Jim I havent any experience with this heli. So I cannot help you. But If this thread doesnt give you any posative input I think that in itself should give you hesitation about purchasing one
My 2 cents
Brian

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/21/2002 5:47:57 PM   
Scotty740



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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by gjsinke
David & Scott,

Yet not one has the STAY AWAY...DO YOUR RESEARCH ELSEWHERE...YOU ARE OUT OF LINE HERE replies as I have received here. [/QUOTE]

Jim, I said none of those things in my post. It may have been inferred depending on how your read it but that was not my intention at all. I referred you to rchelicopters as I know there is a lot of information on dealers and helicopter models there and it is a good place to start.

[QUOTE]As well I am threatened my post may become 'locked down' the moment it gets out of hand, AFTER ONE POST PRIOR TO DAVIDS? What gives here. I thought this forum was designed for asking questions and now I'm informed by the Moderator that 'constructive and informative' posts are welcome here. WHAT...NO QUESTIONS? Perhaps it's a figment of my imagination yet I see more questions posted here than anything and have seen posts go to multiple pages![/QUOTE]

Again you are reading something in that wasn't intended. You asked a question about the helicopters and the dealer. I answered that informative and constructive posts are welcome. Plain and simple, users are welcome to give their information freely as long as it doesn't become inflammatory or start a flame war as sometimes happens. If the thread degrades to that it becomes useless and no one gains at that point.
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Prior to my initial post I had read the (http://www.rchelicopters.org/) reviews and found them to be somewhat incomplete and/or biased. I understand there may be as many opinions as there are people and need more input to conclude my research. I may be a newbie to heli's, and this forum, but I am a 20 year veteran to RC flying and know how to research the subject. That's why I came here to ask you PROS! If I want to learn tennis I will find someone I can learn from and not depend on Jack Anonymous (or a factory rep in disguise) with a review of how to play the game. I don't read one editorial and consider it gospel! Perhaps this should be a forum for PROS ONLY and disallow any silly little questions regarding experience on a single model from newbies.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you came to a good place for your information. There are a lot of users if this forum that can give you the information you are seeking also. If they will give that information in a reasonable manner it is welcome and not a problem. You just happened, without your knowledge I'm sure, to bring up a subject that is a sore spot with many fliers.
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David and Scott...please explain to me where I am out of line here...I will comply as I was excited to find this forum and want to better myself and the hobby...but thus far it seems to me you are the ones out of line here. And to think I used to want to be a Moderator when I grow up!
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You are not out of line at all and I appreciate your participation in the forums here. I hope you stay and continue to contribute as well as asking about the things you have questions on. My post was intended to let others know that they should answer you in an informative manner.
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Thanks to those of you who emailed me directly. I appreciate your input, experience and suggestions. I can only imagine after David and Scotts replies, you didn't want to be labled as potential participants in the feared 'marathon' mania and blackballed from this forum, to reply here. So much for promoting the 'ultimate' RC forum.

Regards,

Jim [/QUOTE]

Jim,

I apologies if you took my post the wrong way. I was in no way discouraging anyone from answering your question. I am just trying to keep things in line and know from past experience with this same topic that it can get out of hand. I'm sure you'll get more information here and again I welcome it. Now to the subject at hand

I've had several dealings with that company but no experience with the helicopters. Part of my purchases with them were just ok, and the rest were not so ok. It's just a company I chouse to not deal with anymore.

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/21/2002 5:50:46 PM   
Steve Campbell2


 

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Status: offline 		Jim,

You didn't step on anyone's toes. You just touched on a topic that has been flayed to death here; one usually guaranteed to get some folks riled up. Here's the "rest of the story"...

The machine you asked about seems to be an okay helicopter, all things considered. But it is marketed and sold by a vendor who, shall we say, has a less than sterling reputation. Many of us here have been stung by this guy's business practices, and a few of us have detailed knowledge of some things he's done; therefore, we know just how sorry an individual he really is.

Newcomers, such as yourself, see his glitzy ads and think that here may be a good thing. So they ask; and guys such as David and myself try to prevent someone getting burned. At least, we used to. Lately, it just isn't worth the effort because of all the flared tempers, etc. Occasionally, someone will say that they have had good dealings with him, never had a problem, etc. Good for them. If they continue to deal with this guy, it is only a matter of time...

Scott is between a rock and a hard place on this issue. He is well aware of the individual in question, yet is charged with "keeping the peace" on this forum; so he must do what he can to keep a lid on the inevitable flamefests that erupt when this subject comes up.

I assume you are interested in this machine because of an attractive price. Consider this; all of these model helicopters use pretty much the same materials, design parameters, etc. The actual cost of producing comparable kits cannot be that divergent. IOW, an all-metal, fully-bearinged ship from one firm should not cost much different from a similar machine by another firm.

If one such all-metal, fully-bearinged machine is quite a bit less expensive than a competitor, you can just about bet the grocery money that one of two things is the reason; either major quality corners have been cut (such as using cheap bearings, pot metal on the frames, etc.), or the vendor is desperate and is trying to get exposure for his product. Either way, you would be better off with something else in the long run.

I'm dancing a fine line of "forum decorum" here, and without actually saying that the vendor in question is an unethical charlatan with a nasty disposition, my advice would be to look elswhere for a quality experience.

Welcome to the hobby.

Steve

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/21/2002 8:53:42 PM   
DavidH


 

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Status: offline 		Jim,
Sorry if my first and original post was taken the wrong way. I was just trying to be dimplomatic and point you in a direction that you could research without this getting into a 50 to 60 post thread that would melt down your computer reading it. [url]www.rchelicopters.org[/url] is a great place for info, none of the info there to me seems to be bias, all of it seems to be pretty much the truth. Now if your interested in the Quick you might really consider looking at the Quick UK from England, it is most likely to be a totally different heli that the one from QWW ( Quick World Wide). QWW is noted for changing parts in kits and putting in some inferior and less expensive parts at times.

Again sorry if my first post was not what you expected. But like everyone else welcome to the hobby. I see your in Georgia, there is a good bunch of heli pilots in the surrounding Atlanta area. Email me and I can probably hook you up with some of them. Also there is a heli funfly in Americus GA this weekend the 23rd-24th. Go to [url]www.hodgeshobbies.com[/url] for info and a map.

David

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/21/2002 11:10:13 PM   
gjsinke


 

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Status: offline 		OK...fair enough. I thought I was being slammed but now the rest of the story is quite clear. The proper etiquette will sink in soon I'm sure. Thanks for all the welcomes. I will put my Bill Maurer imitation to bed and wake up Paul Harvey! Now for the rest of my story...I recently purchased a used ZXX to (crash and burn) learn with. The gentleman I bought this from, here on the for sale forum, also had a Quick 60 Pro, and made me a deal I could not refuse. (Thanks Josh) Very clean machines with obvious low times and a price that was less than the radio/engine (new) alone. Not to mention the 401/9253 and multiple metal/carbon upgrades. I can't get burned with this aquisition, yet my thought now is to strip the Quick, eBay it, and buy a Fury or such in the future. Or maybe crash and burn the Quick too then go from there. Only time will tell. I will do a close inspection of the potential quality issues on the Quick and report back (from a virgin point of view however). Actually seems like a pretty nice machine, but then, how hard is it to copy someone else's nice machine? Quality service and longevity are a concern as well, and since I haven't even hovered yet (I just bought some dowels and wiffle balls) it may be awhile to advance to the 60 and I'll want to be able to get parts. Mind you...No remorse here...Quick or no Quick. I was just looking for more details on the flying qualities but it seems there is somewhat of a boycott on the product. Man, I'm glad I found you guys and look forward to blue skies and fast paddles. Thanks again.

Jim

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/23/2002 9:03:46 AM   
Bill Rademacher



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Status: offline 		well, at the risk of relighting the fire, my friend bought a quick 30, all carbon, after flying a nexus.

It was missing a small part, which they quickly sent. This friend of mine is a machinest at Remington (the firearms manufacturer), and he was impressed with the quality of the machine work.

He and I (Hawk III) are flying the telebee HH gyros, futaba 8Uafs radios. His helicopter has the ccpm setup (three servos) on the swash plate.

I've heard all the good and bad press. All I can tell you is that it flies like a sewing machine. He whips it all over the place, and it is solid as a rock. Stock .32 OS with a stock Century muffler. All metal, carbon frames. No vibration, nothing. He loves it.

I'm really a plank flier at heart, just getting into helis, and I love my Hawk III. It also gets good and bad press.

Now an osprey might be the best of both worlds....

Bill R.

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Quick 60 Pro & HHI - Anyone have any experience? - 2/24/2002 7:34:19 PM   
Steve Campbell