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Civil Discourse (this is a paste - I don't know the who the author is. I read this on another site I frequent and immediatly thought of this forum):
1)Recognize a person's right to advocate ideas that are different from your own.
2)Show respect for others. a)Discuss ideas, not people b)Use helpful, not hurtful language
3)Agree to listen. a)Respectfully hear and listen to differing points of view b)When unsure, clarify what you heard c)Realize that what you say and what people understand you to have said may be different e)Recognize that people can agree to disagree
4)Speak for yourself, not others. a)Speak from your own experience
"Democracy is a means of living together despite our differences. Democratic deliberation is an alternative to physical violence. It is predicated on the assumption that it's possible to disagree agreeably, that it's better to laugh than cry, that one can vigorously contest the positions of one's adversary without questioning his or her personal integrity or motivation, and that parties to a debate are entitled to the presumption that their views are legitimate if not correct."
-Thomas Mann
Bill
ps, would a sticky be out of the question?
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amen brother, MMVI
and just so ya can be jelous. i will be flying in corpus christi this weekend with ron lund and tb, jk, cy, and a whole buncha other great folks. <BAG>
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for muroc1, frank, none of the above is intended to be either bullying or insulting, it is just the way i communicate.
I think everybody just has "cabin fever". Man those guys in the northeast are just gettin pounded by snow. And it's cold here in dixie. I think once springtime comes and we start crackin up planes we wont have time to see who is arguing with who. And we probably won't care. I'll be spending my nites trying to get em back to gether for the weekend.
As for me i know i have been involved in a little verbal joust, but i have made my point and moved on. ( I really want you guys to think i'm a swell guy). I learned from my wife that i rarely can have my way. HEHE. By the way when my wife and i argue, i always get in the last word........Yes dear. But seriously, we rarely agree on everything. But i try to meet her halfway at least, I think sometimes in the flying clubs that is where the macho comes out of some. The ability to rule over, be top dog, however you want to say it. Frankly, if we ran our homes the way we try to run our clubs we would have a full fledged revolt. Plus maybe a few frying pan knots on our heads.
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I agree with JugFlier. I know I am certainly looking forward to Spring and getting to fly more frequently. This thread reminds me of something I read the other day, entitled "All I really Need to Know I learned in Kindergarden" and when you think about it, it makes alot of sense. Some of the things we tend to neglect in our personal interactions are things that we should have learned, or did learn and have chosen not to exercise, as children.
1. Share everything 2. Play fair 3. Don't hit people 4. Put things back where you found them 5. Clean up our mess 6. Don't take things that aren't yours 7. Say you are sorry when you hurt someone 8. Wash your hands before you eat 9. Flush 10. Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you 11. Live a balanced life - learn some, think some, draw and point, sing, dance, play and work some every day 12. Take a nap every afternoon 13. When you go out in the world, hold hands, watch for traffic and stick together 14. Wonder 15 Goldfish, hamsters and the little seeds in the styrofoam cups, they all die. So do people. Life is short
Perhaps the best sum to all of this is something I heard a wise man tell me once that certainly rings true. ..."If you always do What you always did, You'll always get, What you always got"...
If we are not getting our way, and things are going bad around us, the first thing we need to do is to see if everyone involved is follwing those rules we learned in kindergarden. After that we might need to look and see if there are changes we need to make in our own life to make things better.
Just my 0.02, and not worth more than that. Tommy
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I think everybody just has "cabin fever". Man those guys in the northeast are just gettin pounded by snow. And it's cold here in dixie. I think once springtime comes and we start crackin up planes we wont have time to see who is arguing with who. And we probably won't care. I'll be spending my nites trying to get em back to gether for the weekend.
I still am trying to get some planes back together from the past year. I hope I do not crash any this year. Yeah right.
I think everybody just has "cabin fever". Man those guys in the northeast are just gettin pounded by snow. And it's cold here in dixie. I think once springtime comes and we start crackin up planes we wont have time to see who is arguing with who. And we probably won't care. I'll be spending my nites trying to get em back to gether for the weekend.
I still am trying to get some planes back together from the past year. I hope I do not crash any this year. Yeah right.
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Boy, all these threads about the other threads that got yanked are starting to make me wish I had logged on the computer instead playing with toy airplanes over the weekend....well not really but it sounded good.
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I think everybody just has "cabin fever". Man those guys in the northeast are just gettin pounded by snow. And it's cold here in dixie. I think once springtime comes and we start crackin up planes we wont have time to see who is arguing with who. And we probably won't care. I'll be spending my nites trying to get em back to gether for the weekend.
I still am trying to get some planes back together from the past year. I hope I do not crash any this year. Yeah right.
If yoyu try to fly 3=d, they will stay tore up.
Funny thing is that my 3D plane is the only one that is not torn up.
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ORIGINAL: JUGFLIER
I think everybody just has "cabin fever". Man those guys in the northeast are just gettin pounded by snow. And it's cold here in dixie. I think once springtime comes and we start crackin up planes we wont have time to see who is arguing with who. And we probably won't care. I'll be spending my nites trying to get em back to gether for the weekend.
As for me i know i have been involved in a little verbal joust, but i have made my point and moved on. ( I really want you guys to think i'm a swell guy). I learned from my wife that i rarely can have my way. HEHE. By the way when my wife and i argue, i always get in the last word........Yes dear. But seriously, we rarely agree on everything. But i try to meet her halfway at least, I think sometimes in the flying clubs that is where the macho comes out of some. The ability to rule over, be top dog, however you want to say it. Frankly, if we ran our homes the way we try to run our clubs we would have a full fledged revolt. Plus maybe a few frying pan knots on our heads.
I have about 8" of snow/sleet/ice in my yard here in PA so if anyone wants to head North and help shovel, come on up. You can help finish my Extra after we're through.
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They are having a major electric meet scheduled for this weekend in Ocala FL, one of the premier flying sites in the country. But it looks like we will only see a high of 60 with below freezing early in the morning. I'm going to try and brave the weather just to support the club.
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Now I gotta clean the coffee spray off'n my screen 
I'm going to try and brave the weather just to support the club.