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Going NUTS,Fuel,nitro,foaming,etc ??? - 2/8/2003 10:38:21 AM   
Whirley Bird



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From: Lawrenceville, NJ, USA
Status: offline 		I sure can use help here.
I'm flying and my engine is running fine but because im so meticulous I always want everything just right.
What is the *BEST* fuel?
I hear so much about mixing your own brew and adding castor oil and adding other blends to keep the oil from foaming.
ANy suggestions are very much appreciated.
Every fuel manufacture claimes to have the best fuel

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Going NUTS,Fuel,nitro,foaming,etc ??? - 2/8/2003 6:38:04 PM   
Homebrewer



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From: Colorado Springs, CO, USA
Status: offline 		It depends on your application. For example if your engine is a 4 stroke engine, you'd want 100% SYNTHETIC (or very little castor) with about 18-20% oil.

Personally, the rule of thumb I use is USE WHATEVER FUEL IS CHEAPEST AND AVAILABLE IN YOUR LOCAL AREA.

You are lucky since you live in NJ because there is great fuel supplier not too far away and his PRICES ARE LOWER THAN ANY OTHER BRAND!!!!!!
http://www.s-whobby.com/prices.html has a listing.

For a two stroke engine, I recommend using their 15% nitro with their 20% oil fuel.

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Re: Going NUTS,Fuel,nitro,foaming,etc ??? - 2/8/2003 8:06:41 PM   
JWN



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From: Florence, TX, USA
Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Whirley Bird
I sure can use help here.
I'm flying and my engine is running fine but because im so meticulous I always want everything just right.
What is the *BEST* fuel?
I hear so much about mixing your own brew and adding castor oil and adding other blends to keep the oil from foaming.
ANy suggestions are very much appreciated.
Every fuel manufacture claimes to have the best fuel [/QUOTE]

You are right, every fuel manuf has the best fuel. That's all there is to it.

Look at it this way. If someone was making bad fuel, they wouldn't be in business longer than a couple of months. News spreads too fast on the internet for bad companies to stay open for very long.

Everyone has their own perference on what's the best fuel. Some like this, some like that, many will swear by something altogether different. I've used fuel from a dozen or more manufs over the past 17 years. They all behaved very much the same and none were better or worse than any of the rest. Pick one YOU like, and use it. If your engines are running properly, and you like they way they are running, then why screw it up?

John

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Going NUTS,Fuel,nitro,foaming,etc ??? - 2/9/2003 3:49:35 AM   
Whirley Bird



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From: Lawrenceville, NJ, USA
Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Homebrewer
It depends on your application. For example if your engine is a 4 stroke engine, you'd want 100% SYNTHETIC (or very little castor) with about 18-20% oil.

Personally, the rule of thumb I use is USE WHATEVER FUEL IS CHEAPEST AND AVAILABLE IN YOUR LOCAL AREA.

You are lucky since you live in NJ because there is great fuel supplier not too far away and his PRICES ARE LOWER THAN ANY OTHER BRAND!!!!!!
http://www.s-whobby.com/prices.html has a listing.

For a two stroke engine, I recommend using their 15% nitro with their 20% oil fuel. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for that URL.
I think I saw that not long ago.
The place is about a 3 hour ride from here so I wouldn't save no money picking it up.
I did E mail them in the past several times but they never responded.
TH says to save money and buy by the quart@ $5.99.
But the Gallon is only $10.99.
I called and they told me they will only sell the callon in 4 gallon cases and then add a $20.00 HAZ-MAT fee.A pint ,quart, or a gallon, it's flammable.
Thanks for the information

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Re: Re: Going NUTS,Fuel,nitro,foaming,etc ??? - 2/9/2003 3:53:57 AM   
Whirley Bird



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From: Lawrenceville, NJ, USA
Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by JWN


You are right, every fuel manuf has the best fuel. That's all there is to it.

Look at it this way. If someone was making bad fuel, they wouldn't be in business longer than a couple of months. News spreads too fast on the internet for bad companies to stay open for very long.


John [/QUOTE]
Hi John,
Yeah,
Your right but everyone keeps telling me to make sure I use a fuel that doesn't foam.
I read some of the sales pitches from different fuel manufactures and they lay it on thick.
They make it sound like it's liquid gold :
Thanks for the post.
Have a nice Sunday.
We have more Snow comeing here in NJ on Sunday

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Going NUTS,Fuel,nitro,foaming,etc ??? - 2/9/2003 11:07:39 AM   
JWN



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From: Florence, TX, USA
Status: offline 		If your prop is balanced, and the tank is mounted properly with a bit of foam around it, your fuel will not foam. This holds true even for home-brew fuel with nothing more than methanol, oil and nitro. No additives are needed if you set your model up properly.

John

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Going NUTS,Fuel,nitro,foaming,etc ??? - 2/9/2003 10:37:48 PM   
Whirley Bird



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From: Lawrenceville, NJ, USA
Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by JWN
If your prop is balanced, and the tank is mounted properly with a bit of foam around it, your fuel will not foam. This holds true even for home-brew fuel with nothing more than methanol, oil and nitro. No additives are needed if you set your model up properly.

John [/QUOTE].
I have 4 planes now and all are RTF type.
All have the fuel tank glued in place.
I sure would like to remove them and replace them with bigger tanks because 10oz is just not enough with a 46 LA engine so I fly for 3-5 minutes and top off.
I don't want to tear the plane apart to install a bigger tank.
Thanks for the post and have a great day

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Going NUTS,Fuel,nitro,foaming,etc ??? - 2/9/2003 11:07:21 PM   
Twobeers



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From: Toronto, ON, CANADA
Status: offline 		Not quite on the subject. Years ago I used to be a motorcyle nut. One time when I changed the oil in my bike (honda 750) i used a generic oil from one of our local automotive supply houses. I drove about 100km, when I stopped to fill up with gas I checked my oil. The oil tank looked like the top of the water in the sink just after you fill it with water after adding the dish detergent. Well after that I stuck to either Castrol Oil or Valvoline Oil in my bikes. I also experienced the same thing years earlier with a Honda 305, forgot about that one till now. I think it had more to do with the higher internall temperatures in motorcyle engines. Oh by the way the 750 also had an oil cooler mounted on it.

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Going NUTS,Fuel,nitro,foaming,etc ??? - 2/9/2003 11:44:05 PM   
Whirley Bird



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From: Lawrenceville, NJ, USA
Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Twobeers
The oil tank looked like the top of the water in the sink just after you fill it with water after adding the dish detergent. Well after that I stuck to either Castrol Oil or Valvoline Oil in my bikes. I also experienced the same thing years earlier with a Honda 305, forgot about that one till now. I think it had more to do with the higher internall temperatures in motorcyle engines. Oh by the way the 750 also had an oil cooler mounted on it. [/QUOTE]
Well,
Oil has a different job for different applications.
You were lucky and maybe thats why so many bikers have engine problems.
I do a lot of work on Auto A/C and for that we WANT the oii to foam so it doesn't slug the compressor.
We learn more everyday HUH?

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Going NUTS,Fuel,nitro,foaming,etc ??? - 5/4/2003 7:21:06 AM   
dpsper


 

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From: maine, NY, USA
Status: offline 		Lets keep this going way off the subject. Funny you should mention dish water because thats what detergent oil does in an engine. Its ok to use it in a oil pumped and water cooled engine but not in an air cooled one because they generally use the splashers attached to the bottom of the connecting rod. Now think about your lawn mower engine. Same thing is happening in there if your running the same stuff you put in the car. Hard to find a non-detergent oil these days.

Oh yeah, that darned Harley oil cost about $4.00 a quart but I don't dare put anything else in it.

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