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Warbird Twin - 2/15/2002 2:47:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just got a pair of K&B 65's. Any ideas or thoughts for a twin engined warbird (kit or plans)? Possible giant scale? Thanks.
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Warbird Twin - 2/15/2002 7:31:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		How about a Top Flight DC-3 (C-47)

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??? - 2/15/2002 8:18:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Those might be a little big for the DC-3 no?

How about a Marutaka P-38??


or maybe a B-25??

and if you really up for a challenge
P-61??


Hope those K&Bs run good

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Warbird Twin - 2/15/2002 8:28:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is that a pic of your own Black Widow, or a catalog shot?

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Warbird Twin - 2/15/2002 7:56:00 PM   
had enough



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Status: offline 		Those pics are pulled off Hobby barns site
This is one I built

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomwreiner/vwp?.dir=/Model+Planes&.dnm=North+american+P+82.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

< Message edited by scale_only_4_me-RCU -- Feb 15 2002 3:16PM >

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Warbird Twin - 2/15/2002 11:07:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like your kingfisher!
I scratch built a 60" Black Widow some years ago. Have another around the same size I am doing from a part-built Eureka CL model.
The Marutaka one has been tempting me for a few years. I like their kits, but three fuselages and all that, all planked balsa, weellll, that's a full winter's project, and I have some jets to knock out right now. I would love to hear from anybody who has built one, though...

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Warbird Twin - 2/16/2002 6:01:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'd suggest a Vickers Wellington. Its ugly not everyone has one and it flies great on much more modest power than you've got available. Mine flies well even on a single engine.

Have a look at a family photo:
http://www.mailbag.com/users/spierings/wellington.jpg


Currently three are flying locally. Possibly two more by mid summer.

Chris

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Warbird Twin - 3/8/2002 7:47:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		How about the Rich Uravitch OV-10 Bronco. It is my next project.It has a 81 inch wingspan and takes 2 40 to 60 size engines. I don't have a picture, but it is a good looking aircraft.

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Warbird Twin - 3/8/2002 8:06:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a better suggestion. Bench run those engines first. Are those Sportster 65's? I myself would not even consider a twin with two of those, just not solid enough engines. If you are a real K&B man, have at it, but I would pick a better pair of engines. I'm not slamming all of the K&B engines, but I had the smaller sportsters, and they did not impress me...

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Warbird Twin - 3/8/2002 8:37:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Throw those boat anchors out or pawn them off on Ebay. Get a couple of O.S. or Supertigre engines if you want to do a twin. Better yet a couple of Saito's as they idle great. Seriosly if you are going to commit to an expesive twin project make sure you have absolutly reliable engines. I have messed with a couple of K@b .65s and they were posibly the worst engines I have ever run. Don

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Warbird Twin - 3/8/2002 8:53:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		What about the Tower 61, I have a couple of friends that have the 46 and they seem to be good engines. I have an older K&B with the Perry carb and pump. It is still new and in box, so I don't know how it will run. I was planning to use Tower 61's or Magnum 61's on my Bronco project.

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Warbird Twin - 3/8/2002 10:12:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		The old K@B Veco .61 was a great running engine. Very reliable idle but not overly powerful. havn't run a tower .61 but have run several Magnums. Seems like the quality of the Magnums is spotty as some run really well and others are dogs. Don

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Warbird Twin - 3/8/2002 5:58:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Amen, Don. To do all the work of a twin, then trust it to K&B 65's, well...I'll bring the trash bag.
I think the Uravitch Bronco is an excellent choice. I am flying the smaller 52" one, and it's a real honey. Has everything you need in a first twin.

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twin engine - 3/8/2002 11:16:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		hey fellas i am werking on a ziroli p81 with 2 gas zenoah engines
i see a few of you have built these types of aircraft, i am about 80 percent done have all three fuses done center wing section and retract system in, most of the hardware has been mounted and the engines have been fitted, i hope to fly this thing some time this summer but i have never lifted this size of an aircraft off the ground, any tips on the flap setup, flying charecterisitics? this is a huge airplane and i have a ton of $$$ in it already, maybe i need to find someone that has flown one of these to come out and help me set this one up

ill post a few pics of the werks in progress if interested

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First twin? - 3/9/2002 12:27:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I learnt my ropes with the K&Bs. After that I only use OS, Rossi or Webra for the 60 size models. I would put them in a Duellist, it's known for good single engine flying and not too expensive to build. It'll give you a chance to learn the habits of twins.

JG

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Warbird Twin - 3/9/2002 9:27:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		AirCav and Easy Tiger,
Thanks for the kind words. The Bronco seems to work well in both sizes. There's one underway locally even larger.....2X the 52" version. Here is a shot of one of the local 81" versions in NASA markings built by a good friend, Gene Davis. He's using a pair of Tower .46's @ 16 lbs. and it flies real well. Again, thanks.
Rich

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Warbird Twin - 3/12/2002 7:38:24 AM