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worst engine ever - 2/23/2007 6:00:35 PM   
SSGSPEEDMAN



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Status: offline 		I couldn't find a form for engines so wanted to see what is the worst engine you ever had.

I can't stand the Fox glow engines. They are the crapiest I've ever had. can't run right or ideal right well for very long any ways.
Now the Fox gas engines are good motors for the giant scale planes.

Kevin
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RE: worst engine ever - 2/23/2007 6:17:35 PM   
MJD


 

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ORIGINAL: SSGSPEEDMAN

I couldn't find a form for engines so wanted to see what is the worst engine you ever had.

I can't stand the Fox glow engines. They are the crapiest I've ever had. can't run right or ideal right well for very long any ways.
Now the Fox gas engines are good motors for the giant scale planes.

Kevin


Kevin, there is a glow forum and a diesel forum right here on on RCU..

If you want to stir the pot and get the Fox fanatics on your case, go post this on the glow forum.. and stand back.

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/23/2007 8:28:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Back in the late 70's - early 80's I flew Fox stunt 35's a lot in control line stunt. I did not like the Fox NVA and installed ST NVA's. Usually got one-flip starts and good consistant runs. My son won senior class C free flight at the 1980 Nats with a Fox stunt 35. I'm building an Old Time CL Stunt airplane for one of my Fox stunt 35's at the moment.

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/23/2007 8:29:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I tend to agree on Foxes - have one that is great - had several that were terrible. Just fixed a Fox 40 for a friend - filled the grove between the carb and the front bearing. Another Fox idea gone bad.

My worst engine - a Thor back in about 1955.

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/23/2007 9:40:53 PM   
w8ye



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Status: offline 		Some Fox engines were very good period.

Some of the bigger ones would not work without extensive modification then they were excellent.

But why should you have to make your own engine?

Fox fans look here.... It tells how to make the bad ones run good.

http://www.flitelinesolutions.com/projects.html

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/23/2007 11:24:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just did the break in on a new Fox .74 ring this very afternoon while unloading a load of firewood. It will Idle at 1,700 rpm and turns a Bolly 12.5x8 at 10,900 rpm on 5% Fox fuel with 20% castor.. It's my 13th Fox engine. Your statement says more about you than the Fox engines. I have yet to get a worst engine.

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/23/2007 11:32:58 PM   
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Amennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. My worst engine is one I never could get started, no one else in the club could either. It was a Brown 29 ignition unit in about 1948. Oh, what a old motor. You should look in the mirror and see what I see sometimes.

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/24/2007 12:14:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		any macoy.

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/24/2007 12:39:22 AM   
Sport_Pilot



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Status: offline 		I am a Fox fan and I would say that if you get past the carbs, which very from crappy to crude. The crude ones actually work pretty good but the detents on the needle are too wide, and the needles leak a bit. But the later ones are very good and the carbs are only slightly crude. If you like an engine with lots of torque but will still have a lot of power with a lighter prop, then Fox is great.

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/24/2007 12:42:09 AM   
Sport_Pilot



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any macoy.


I had a McCoy series 21, black head square case. Ran great but hard to start hot, the dykes ring wouldn't have any compression hot. But it was almost as powerfull as a combat engine. I am told it doesn't last very long, but it met its demise in a crash. Great beginners engine.

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/24/2007 12:44:09 AM   
Sport_Pilot



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Status: offline 		I would say my worst engine was a Cox .049, I think it was a Baby Bee. For some reason it had little compression out of the box. All my other Cox engines were good, for such a small engine.

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/24/2007 1:46:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, a McCoy engine may have been hard starting, but least they did after 20 minutes of cranking.

My worst was any A/C or marine engine on the OK Cub lineup. I could get them to run at home, but once that engine left the backyard, it never started, ever again.

Wm.


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RE: worst engine ever - 2/24/2007 1:57:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		k & b sport is the one that I just put in a trash can. but I love my fox. Never had a prob with them

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/24/2007 2:40:42 AM   
Ed_Moorman



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Status: offline 		My worst goes back to my CL days as a boy. It was a Cameron .19. I had it running, but it never was very good.

Foxes-I've had a lot of great CL & RC Foxes. Most people can't get them adjusted. Way back, I would pick up used Fox Combat Specials that weren't broken in-of course they wouldn't run. Those old iron piston engines needed a good long break-in. I would run them for another hour rich and have a great engine. I also has Fox .45s and Fox .50s that ran great. The ones with the butterfly carb ran great, but you did have to understand how to set them.

As for McCoys, I had a couple of the .35 Red Heads with the shiny silver case. I had one on a Flite Streak that I built back in 1960 when I was in pilot training. It would 1-flip start and I flew it and the Streak for a couple of years until I wore both out. Boy, does that bring back memories, flying the T-33 and the Flite Streak.

Did I tell you guys that I had a mid-air with an Iranian student and punched out. It was August 15, 1960, just after I had finished training and was waiting to go to my first operational assignment.

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RE: worst engine ever - 2/24/2007 2:49:16 AM   
Ed Cregger



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ORIGINAL: Jim Thomerson

Back in the late 70's - early 80's I flew Fox stunt 35's a lot in control line stunt. I did not like the Fox NVA and installed ST NVA's. Usually got one-flip starts and good consistant runs. My son won senior class C free flight at the 1980 Nats with a Fox stunt 35. I'm building an Old Time CL Stunt airplane for one of my Fox stunt 35's at the moment.



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Jim, I'll bet you that you can remove the spray bar and needle valve from the engine and get one flip starts.

The needle valve assembly doesn't work until the engine is running. It has nothing to do with how it starts.

I'll bet you knew that and I'm just honery enough to point it out and pick on you. <G>

Like you, I mix and match parts whenever I can, if it makes the engine run better.


Ed Cregger



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RE: worst engine ever - 2/24/2007 2:52:46 AM   
Jim Thomerson