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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 4/26/2008 8:46:41 PM

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Anything in between the .32 and the .46 that would do well?
I just want a good sport plane. So a 13 x 6 for the best performance????

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 4/26/2008 10:06:47 PM

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You could put in any good .40.

Avoid an .40LA though as it is less powerful than a standard .40.

Prop size is determined by what you are trying to achieve along with the engine size you used.

I flew the plane again today, this time with a MA 11x7.

I liked the speed and performance.

I may try a 10x8 to see if I can get more high end RPM's out of the plane tradiing off it's existing ( almost unlimited ) climb rate.

I've had no problems with the new stock elevator even during hard snaps.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 4/27/2008 12:09:20 AM

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With the OS .32, ill try a 10 x 6 apc. Should be good for aerobatics/sport flying.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 4/27/2008 9:58:05 PM

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Polecat .50 with O.S. AX .46 engine, dubro muffler extension, Mac muffler pipe, MA 11x8 prop.

Minimal cowl cutting needed, and the engine is almost completely hidden.

Note fuel dot at tip of chin faux oil cooler intake.

The right cheek hole is for the ignitor.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 4/29/2008 1:12:56 AM

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NICE!!! Anybody have a video of the pole cat flying?? I already saw the ones on the internet and you cant really see the plane.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 4/29/2008 4:48:24 PM

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Have you seen this one?

Click me!

BTW: Mine seems considerably faster than the one in the video.

My level, full throttle flying speed appears to be about the same as what the pilot achieves in the video with a full throttle dive, as the plane passes by.

I also get MUCH quicker rolls.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 4/30/2008 10:39:22 PM

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Yep seen that one. Probably becuse that plane is electric and the one you have uses a .46 when the recommended power is up to a .46

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 5/23/2008 1:25:52 PM

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I just got a Pole Cat 50 and have looked at the threads here...considdering most of them I have decided to go "Light and Agile"...I have a slightly modified (cooling head reduced to normal size) OS 32 heli engine that is very light and "Bad Strong". What are the Lightest/Strong/Quick servos that are Nitro plane safe? I know that some mini and micro servos are not safe for nitro planes...but I don’t know of a great reference to find that “Safe But Light” line for servos. The plane will be flying on Spektrum and will have a 5 cell pack...Any Help would be GREAT!

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 5/23/2008 5:11:19 PM

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No servo can be said to be "safe".

I've had a higher failure rate on Hitec's than I have had on cheap $7.00 ea servos.

The Polecat only needs standard servos.

I fly mine with an oversized engine ( see picture above ) at high speeds using $7.00/ea Hextronics/TowerPro SG5010 (no relation to Tower Hobby) analog high torque servos with 130oz/in torque.

This is serious overkill for this plane in terms of torque.

I've used over 130 of these servos w/o incident.

A mini servo is too small to fit let alone a micro servo.

I assume that you obtained a prop washer, thrust washer, and nut for your heli engine too, right?

If you didn't you MUST obtain these as they are not included with heli engines.

The prop washer/nut is where the prop sits, and bites into the prop itself to hold it.

The thrust washer goes behind the prop support washer/nut. It is very thin and specific to the engine.

Without it the camshaft will move back a few millimeters causing the engine to sieze. People often loose these and forget that they are needed on O.S. engines. Check the O.S. 32 FX manual to see what I am talking about in the parts breakout.

A .32 2C engine is good on this plane. You do not have to worry about weight.

I have a much heavier .46 engine and Mac's muffler on mine ( see above ) and the plane still floats accross the runway at full idle.

I even have a good sized 2000mAh battery pack in it too and the plane is not overloaded.

You'll find that the gear bends easily.... however this is a good thing.

If you bend the gear, your landings are too hard and you need to improve your landings.

The gear may cause you to bust a prop, but it will save the plane from damage.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 5/23/2008 6:53:53 PM

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Thanks for the heads-ups...and yes I have all of the parts for the Heli engine to turn a prop...thanks for making sure.
I have several high-powerred fun planes and want this one to be light...mainly just for something different.
I do have some 1/16th inch ply servo-adapters for the JR micro 331s...they are light and make great throttle servos ( used in my TwinStar ).
I'm just not sure JR recommends using them on Nitro Planes...but I have had no problems yet.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 5/23/2008 7:17:00 PM

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Thanks for the heads-ups...and yes I have all of the parts for the Heli engine to turn a prop...thanks for making sure.
I have several high-powerred fun planes and want this one to be light...mainly just for something different.
I do have some 1/16th inch ply servo-adapters for the JR micro 331s...they are light and make great throttle servos ( used in my TwinStar ).
I'm just not sure JR recommends using them on Nitro Planes...but I have had no problems yet.

Don't attempt to use Micro servos, nor mini servos on this plane.

A standard standard servo set is fine though.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 5/29/2008 10:04:50 PM

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I got a plane off ebay that seems to be based on the pole cat with some minor differences. I have 3 engines sitting around the garage I could use, a tower .46, gms .47, or a tower .75. Obviously the tower .75 would be the most exciting but I don't want to push the wing loading up to much or I'm not sure if this plane is sturdy enough to handle the power level. How is the plane balancing with the .46, does it require much lead in the nose?

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 5/29/2008 10:17:10 PM

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The .75 would be too much engine and too heavy.

I put a Tower Hobbies .46 with a Macs tuned muffler on it, and it pulls it straight up for as long as I can see it.

It's a bit nose heavy with this engine and I have the battery as far back as I could put it under the canopy area.

The plane actually calls for a 2C .32 engine or a 4C .50, so you can imagine that a 2C .46 gives it plenty of power.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 5/31/2008 4:41:13 PM

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Bummer looks like I need to go with one of my .46 engines. I was kind of hoping to make this plane fast, and with the large frontal area I just don't think a .46 will do it. It looks like a fast wing on a draggy fuselage.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 5/31/2008 11:08:05 PM

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Bummer looks like I need to go with one of my .46 engines. I was kind of hoping to make this plane fast, and with the large frontal area I just don't think a .46 will do it. It looks like a fast wing on a draggy fuselage.

I mis-spoke...

I actually used a .46 AX with the MACs and an anti-vibration mount.

I'm flying it with a MA 10x7 prop, but a higher pitch would make it faster.

It's not lightning fast, but it's not a slouch either.

Use a Xx8 prop and you'll be happy with it's speed.

I don't find the fuse draggy. Once I chop throttle the plane takes a good while to slow down, making it fairly "floaty" on landings as a result.

Air exits the cowl cheeks which reduces frontal drag and helps cool the engine, otherwise it's fairly svelt from an airflow standpoint.

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RE: Pole Cat 50 - 51" ARF - 6/11/2008 12:42:42 AM

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Me and my husband ordered one of these Polecats and a 40 size Pitts from Nitromodels. The instructions suck, but the planes look nice, especially for the price. We ended up putting a .51 size SuperTigre engine in the Polecat. We're running it with no muffler, just straight pipe. It's loud and it's FAST. He set up dual rates on it, but there's no reason ever to hit the high rates when the plane is as fast as it is. I think this plane would make a good pylon racer. It also flies fairly well at slower speeds, which helps with the landings. We don't usually run it at full throttle, but about half or three-quarter throttle and it's plenty fast. In fact, you have to start thinking about turning as soon as it goes by.

I just wanted to let people know that you can use a .51 size engine if you want something that will get your adrenaline pumping and you like fast planes. Hubby put the