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War for oil????? - 5/11/2003 3:03:30 AM   
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If the US's real goal was "war for oil", why oh WHY aren't we now seizing the oil fields, diverting that oil to US-bound tankers, and beginning to enjoy sub-$1 a gallon gasoline?
Maybe some of the naysayers out there ought to look at the statistics for how much (little) of our oil the US actually GETS from Iraq. It's well under 10%, based on the last figures I saw. Smart men, given this intent, would've attacked a much closer-by country that we get much more of our oil from (like Venezuela for example) with a less trumped-up military, with fewer geopolitical implications of an invasion, to invade and take their oil. Not Iraq.

Just as there is a burden of proof for the WOMDs' discovery by coalition troops post-occupation, likewise lies a burden of proof for the "War For Oil" accusation, for all the finger-pointers. These are the same folks who predicted "thousands of casualties" of coalition troops by Iraq, and "another Viet Nam" if we went in.

Just how far off-topic can a thread get?

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Over Powering Planes - 5/11/2003 3:33:32 AM   
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OR if we were the war hungry nation
some say I am retired mil I was one
of the last ones to be close 7 miles
for the big nukes at christmas Island
now that is a site. But you you think
N Korea has something let me tell you
it a grain of sand what is there. I have
heard romors of more than was in iraq
No don't show all your A's.

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Over Powering Planes - 5/11/2003 7:52:27 AM   
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I see it more as a political war for oil. Put it this way. It is well known that oil reserves in the US are starting to run low. Once the new government is implimented it is hoped that they will be more genourus towards the US and GB and thus give a break on the price of Oil (under the table of course). Either that or your Oil reserves are well stocked and you'd like to use up the rest of the worlds oil supply before using up you own and creating a greater market share.

How about this:

Why during the weeks leading up to the war all Bush could talk about was weapons yet as soon as war starts it's about ousting Saddam? That one has never sat well with me.

If this was just about ousting Saddam there are a helluva lot of other countries that should be on that list as well.

Rick:

Seems that they are letting this get as far off topic as possible.

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Over Powering Planes - 5/11/2003 8:15:27 AM   
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I just wonder where kamloops gets it's
oil all the way from mother england or
200 miles down the road. Or reinport
from japan.

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Over Powering Planes - 5/11/2003 8:31:31 AM   
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Right here in Canada. I'm not sure of the exact stats but I believe that we have the largest oil reserves outside of the middle east.

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Over Powering Planes - 5/11/2003 8:48:05 AM   
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Yes, this is a little off the topic.

"Why during the weeks leading up to the war all Bush could talk about was weapons yet as soon as war starts it's about ousting Saddam? That one has never sat well with me."

It makes perfect sense. Who was the man behind it all encouraging weapons production? The fall of the leader coincides with the fall of a regime.

"situation in N. Korea."

Most have forgotten that the Iraqi regime has already used weapons against their own people. How many of their own people did they kill? It shows that they are likely to use them against others. N Korea has not used WOMD against their own population or others.

"48 hours."

How many years did we play this game. To find very well hidden weapons in a large country would be like hiding a car in LA and sending out 5 people on foot to find it. The people in the car would know where the people on foot were headed. I'm sure some weapons will show up in time. They aren't going to appear magically.

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For What It's Worth - 5/11/2003 10:31:38 AM   
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The US imports more of it's oil from Canada than from any other source.

Doesn't make a lot of sense to fight a "war for oil" so far away when there's that rich a source so close by, eh?
Good for us the Canadian border is so porous. You know how us oil-warmongers down here are when we get all squeaky.

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Over Powering Planes - 5/11/2003 11:37:38 AM   
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I didn't know canda was so rich in
oil why don't we just nuke a couple of
big city and take it over be us from top to bottom. You know how we are of course I have admit everone under 40
has a suv or A blacktop 4 wheeler.

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Over Powering Planes - 5/11/2003 8:50:05 PM   
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The thing I find funny is that Hollywood is condemming SUV owners. They then go and fly to the Bahamas on their private jet and burn more fuel than I do with my compact car in a year. I have one car unlike the twenty car garages of the people that speak out. I'm sure their limos also get pretty ugly gas mileage.

It is really funny to watch them get off their private jets and then jump into an electric car (which is dirtier than an SUV, the tail pipe is just moved elsewhere) and think they are saving the environment and setting an example.

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Over Powering Planes - 5/11/2003 9:18:51 PM   
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What I think is funny is that we export a lot of our oilto the U.S. and GB but we have only one major Gas company.

Don't forget we also export electricty, wood, potatoes, wheat and even water to the U.S. The amount in dollars that crosses our borders everyday is well over a billion dollars.

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Over Powering Planes - 5/11/2003 9:35:47 PM   
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I'am going have to backup some I spent
three tours in vietnam and we sure had
a lot of youg potheads that had a lot yellow.. Of course I belive like it says
man is suppose to sweat and take charge . So many run arround flying the US flag and talking big and I have a son in law that is nothing but wind his ffather called a little cog of course we all are cog's in a big gear box. Politics is poly
meaning many titck's blud suckkers.

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You forgot one... - 5/11/2003 10:54:51 PM   
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[QUOTE]Don't forget we also export electricty, wood, potatoes, wheat and even water to the U.S.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget to add TERRORISTS to that export list.

But, that's a whole 'nother off-topic discussion.

I'm goin' flying!

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Over Powering Planes - 5/11/2003 11:38:35 PM   
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My definition of "Liberal" is someone who wants to make rules for "Other" people.

Electric cars will be fine as soon as we build a lot of nice clean Nuclear Plants.

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Re: You forgot one... - 5/12/2003 12:40:33 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ElectRick
Don't forget to add TERRORISTS to that export list.[/QUOTE]

Then you teach them how to fly in Florida.

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Over Powering Planes - 5/12/2003 1:34:25 AM   
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Is canda going to be exporting sars
pretty soon Now that is terror . To bad
the french doesn't get more they harbor
so many X political types of course the
US is full russian's.

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Over Powering Planes - 5/17/2003 5:51:04 AM   
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how much is that in us money,$1.50?

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