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You and I discussed exactly this same issue with people having problems with the 115 a long time ago. About the time I publically witdrew my support for the 115. One of the reasons for my withdrawl was due to mid range issues suddenly cropping up in RTK's engine after he made some changes in his baffles. That's when I saw that you had to be pretty good at setting up a carb and understood how airflow effects things inside a cowl. Because of that, and knowing the the vast majority of the people do not have that understanding and could easily have problems tuning their engines. A good many have trouble balancing a plane because they think that all the parts have to drop into the numbered slots for that part, or fit in the same manner as the guy's that posted a picture on an internet site.
Add to the above the fact that there were a fairly high number of flat out defective carbs that were supplied by either Walbro, or other distributor. That made life impossible for many and is inexscusable on the part of Walbro. Not on the part of BME. he, like his customers, placed faith in the quality of another manufacturer's product and was severly let down in doing so. Every manufacturer bench runs and engine. If it works there it should work everywhere. No manufacturer mounts every engine up in a plane and flys it. The original engines and associated components worked fine in flight, so the same engines made with the same parts should have worked equally well on customer's aircraft. The fact is, many did not.
The fact is that a very large percentage of the people currently flying 3D r/c are plug and play types. PC Gamers have a lot of talent in hand-eye coordination and manage to pick up r/c flying quite fast. They don't need to know how it works, only how to move the sticks to get it to do what they want it to do. If it doesn't work out of the box they are stymied and blame everything and everybody for their lack of technical understanding and ability. That's not knocking them in any way, but the truth just the same. Those that have true engine experience, building experience, and have done all the work with their own hands are fewer everyday. That means that the manufacturers have to "dumb it down" for a large number of people to be able to play where they feel the need to play. Not a bad thing, but the lack of knowledge and experience of many makes it a lot tougher for manufacturers to produce truly high performance products.
It also means that there are fewer of us available with the required knowledge to help others along. Most of those can make any engine run, and run well, with everyday off the shelf items and a little positioning of parts. As for the fixes RTK and Altavillan are working with, both will be simple carb swaps. One you can probably pick up at a yard sale or small engine shop for $10.00 or less and go play, and the other a brand new design in carbs. Let the guys run with it for a bit longer. They WILL get back to you.
PatrickP
I still stand with what I said in an earlier post. If your product works as well and reliably as you said it does I will order one myself. Proof first, orders later. Because you say it works is not good enough for me to send you my money. As an example, I have a diamond in my hand and I know it's worth $4,000.00 so I'll sell it sight unseen to the first person with $3,500.00. That ain't gonna happen unless someone is absolutely stupid. I have no problems with you or your ideas, but I don't much care for the way you approach things. If you want to do business, be a businessman, not an instigator. I have not attacked you or your product in any way. If I had you would have felt it a lot more intensely than you perceive to have done so. I feel that your call to have me and others banned is uncalled for. This is still a free speech country unless something's changed while I've been away defending it.
Patrick Roy
< Message edited by Pat Roy -- 10/2/2007 10:49:48 PM >
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