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18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/1/2007 3:31:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Would it be hard or frustrating for a car newbie to build the 18ss kit, and what tools are required?
Thanks.

/Edit; Did some reading on the forum and it seems like the kit isn't too hard.
I'd appreaciate some input in what I need to buy with the kit, e.g special tools or stuff from the hobby shop to be able to assemble the kit. (excl. radio and engine related stuff, that I have already)


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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/1/2007 9:11:47 PM   
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-screwdriver set
-needle nose pliers
-CA glue
-Threadlock
-grease

Just basic field equipment dude, not a biggie. Youl probably have most of it if youve had a nitro before

Heres the manual for it anyway so u can d/l and see:
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/instr/10251/10251.pdf

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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/1/2007 9:31:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		get some extra threadlock, grease, extra fuel tubing, fuel filter, goodscrewdrivers and some pliers, should begood enough, an xacto knife is good to have too


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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/1/2007 9:42:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for helping out, appreaciated.
I have a hobbyroom already for building my rc planes so I have most of the stuff/tools you listed.
What is this grease you mention, What's it for? And should I use medium or thin CA?

I was dragged into this rc car racing by my friend and made some research here on RCU.
I opted for the 18ss over the rs4 evo3 rtr because my friend is borrowing me the radio equipment so the price is same, and yeah, I like to build stuff

...As for patience, I think I have it pretty much Covered

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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/1/2007 11:24:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Grease is for the diff's and other sorts of applications that need lubrication, it says it all in the manual where you need to apply it, im pretty sure the 18ss kit comes with grease and threadlock.

Doesnt really matter what CA glue you use, not a biggie.

Im sure you wont have a problem building the 18ss if youve built planes before

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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/2/2007 6:07:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks
I actually built a Raptor Heli a couple of years ago. I suppose building a car is similair.
(Working on the planes are only wood construction though, no mechanics like in helis & cars).

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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/3/2007 2:18:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I need help with routing the fuel line, it'll touch those red cogs on the engine?

Can somebody explain how the gearbox work, I have built it according to instructions, but I don't really understand what makes it shift and how it really works?
I guess the two red cogs have constant speed from the engine when clutch is engaged, but how does the clutch then select which of the black cogs (43&47) on the drive train that will drive the shafts?



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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/3/2007 2:57:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		When the trans get to a the right RPM's, theres a small (im gonna say) "nob" the sticks out which then makes the 2nd gear lock into place with the first = shifted into 2nd gear. And u adjust the shift point with the 2nd screw thats a little more at an angle.

You really have two options when it comes to the fuel line, #1 get a racing fuel tank so u dont have to worry about it. #2 get longer fuel tubing and route it along the handle. I have the tubing on mine mounted on the handle and used zip ties to hold the filter still

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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/3/2007 3:11:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		the smaller black cog is the 2nd gear, theres a clutch in there that engages when it hits a certain rpm.

As for the fuel line, just turn the tank the other way around, thats what most people do to counter the fuel line problem. you might need longer fuel lines though.

Theres a thread here that discusses rs4's problems and other chat. Just have a read
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5416029/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/4/2007 2:36:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here it is.. Does this look about right? (Toe out looks much?)

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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/4/2007 5:05:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah a bit. But your heading in the right direction. The front tires should be poiting 100% strght

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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/4/2007 5:36:00 PM   
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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/4/2007 8:25:23 PM   
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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/5/2007 12:25:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey dude i just noticed ur fuel filter, if its the same one as mine you might have it on the wrong way. Its not a biggie, just noticed it.

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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/5/2007 5:35:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		HeLLsGod: I'm pretty sure it's on the right way. The filter mesh is on the far side from the tank, making dirt easy to remove when the filter casing is opened. I have it like this on some of my planes and it's worked well.

HAd sort of an Anticlimax tonight with my car. I went to buy batteries to go in the radio transmitter and planned to break in the engine but the throttle/brake servo is totally dead.
Need to pick up a new servo tommorrow to get this thing going!

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RE: 18SS, difficult to build? /tools needed? - 3/8/2007 7:22:37 PM   
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