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Q500 engine - 3/1/2007 7:47:55 PM   
wkevinm


 

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Status: offline 		I see Nelson Q500 engines on e-bay lately. Does this suggest there is some betting a new engine is on the horizon?

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RE: Q500 engine - 3/1/2007 7:52:55 PM   
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As far as I know, the Nelson Q500 LS is being tested now. It took close to a year to get the Q40 version ready for market, but I doubt it will take the Quickie version as long. Shadel mentioned it on a thread on the NMPRA site.

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RE: Q500 engine - 3/2/2007 9:18:23 AM   
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RE: Q500 engine - 3/2/2007 11:14:52 AM   
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RE: Q500 engine - 3/2/2007 1:37:36 PM   
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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 2:53:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		The new Nelson Q500 will finish off those pilots that have been on the bubble due to the composites price... I guess it is finally time for me to pack it in for 428 and join the many others who departed over the last 10 years. There simply are not enough 428 flyers left in my part of the country to justify the expense of new engines to compete with 4 or 5 other pilots for a $10 trophy. It's a real shame... I really used to enjoy 428 but every year we rehash the same old "what can we do to attract more racers or retain the ones we have" and the response by our genius leaders is always the same... go faster more expensively! I predict that within 1 year, there will never be another 428 east coast race north of florida. Prove me wrong.

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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 3:06:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Didn't they race 428 in Georgia, or was it South Carolina last year? Sounds like Bill J, has a resurgance of 424 and a nice group of 428 racers to help grow that area. It is unfortunate what you have seen in your area, there are competitive Build Your Own Q500 kits available in the Hurrikane, Seeker, Vortex, and even the Bird of Prey is competitive with the new weight rules and not as expensive.

I've never felt it was a composite plane issue, it is a "lack of people that want to build issue".

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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 3:30:10 PM   
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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 5:14:50 PM   
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For the recent past most racers fitted into a slot in the pecking order. Sure one could have a decent contest and place above his usual spot, but this was rare. The same racers at the top, in the middle and at the bottom end.

If we all buy the latest equipment nothing will change. It will be the same racers at the top, in the middle and at the bottom end. Except now we will be going a little faster and spending a lot more money! Seems kind of pointless.

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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 5:41:34 PM   
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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 7:59:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ed Smith

We cannot halt progress but is it realy progress?

For the recent past most racers fitted into a slot in the pecking order. Sure one could have a decent contest and place above his usual spot, but this was rare. The same racers at the top, in the middle and at the bottom end.

If we all buy the latest equipment nothing will change. It will be the same racers at the top, in the middle and at the bottom end. Except now we will be going a little faster and spending a lot more money! Seems kind of pointless.

Ed S





Seems kind of pointless... and that is the whole point!

Except there are so very few left to even make the point with... that is if they would even be willing to listen.

I remember a few years back, before composites ruled the world, I think it was Duane Gall or some other person with future vision that put a proposal out there to drastically slow 428 by eliminating the minipipe as a method to make them safer and more enticing to newcomers... I, like most others, was totally against slowing down. Well, were I live we don't have anyone to play with anymore unless we travel over 500 miles at least. Some progress. Even if I were to talk the wife into buying a new Nelson, I would have to put it in a stand in our china cabinet next to all those other expensive "DISPLAY" pieces. Just my 2 cents.


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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 9:35:04 PM   
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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 9:38:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just remember one thing. If the inner-pipes were removed from the engines, we probably already would've bought new engines as they would have been re-engineered to run better without the inner pipes. Would they be as fast as the current engines? I don't know, but they definately would've been faster than the current engines with the inner pipes removed.

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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 9:57:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		True. And I thought they would be no faster than Thunder Tigers if you took out the minipipe, which turned out to be 'way wrong. So we probably would've needed event 424 anyway.

Just for the record, I voted against Rick Moreland's proposal to require 8-3/4" props in Q40 based on the same reasoning. He said we'd be able to use Q500 engines, but I was afraid we'd all have to buy new pistons and liners -- somewhere between the timing of the Q500 version and the small-prop Q40 version -- because the existing Q500 ones weren't optimized for the lower drag of a Q40 airframe. So I'm not really evil, just mischievous.

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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 10:52:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why not run Thunder Tigers on a course short enough to turn about the same times turned with Nelson engines. Should be just as fun and much cheaper. Jim

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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 11:03:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Jim,

That is exactly what they do in Minnesota, except they use the O.S. .46AX with any prop, on the 475 foot course.

Average times around 1:15 and not so fast the average guy can't fly.

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RE: Q500 engine - 3/6/2007 11:52:05 PM