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RE: RC Surfer - 11/20/2012 4:09 PM   
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    were did you find that ,, and how much did it cost ,   and were can i get one 



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RE: RC Surfer - 11/20/2012 8:06 PM   
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1st battery, 1st 2 foot lip...hit it perfect with some speed




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RE: RC Surfer - 11/20/2012 9:07 PM   
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Ran into another GoPro...



Slash is not camera shy...


We are getting better at this...




Can't wait until he posts on his youtube channel.

Having someone shoot the video is so much better than trying to do it yourself.


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RE: RC Surfer - 11/20/2012 10:09 PM   
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Nice one Kitekook!
MJ, there's an original dude on e-bay, make an offer!
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyosho-RC-Surfer-Super-Rare-/261130497604?pt=US_Character_Radio_Control_Toys&hash=item3ccc972e44
Slowly working on my kyosho Lisa, reading and re-reading all the info on here, thanks to all for contributing.
Hard to fit any battery larger than a 3S, so probably going to run a Leopard 3660 3060kv and a 90 amp seaking esc.


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RE: RC Surfer - 11/20/2012 11:14 PM   
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Hey nice find. I found one and built it. Check out my web page http://mysite.verizon.net/vze14seqn/
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RE: RC Surfer - 11/21/2012 1:30 AM   
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                     amazing pics right in the tube,,plus that big air 30 feet plus..  five stars

 

   
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billybong         i might just do that ,, to have a oringnal kyosho in the box is priceless


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RE: RC Surfer - 11/21/2012 3:26 AM   
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Just received a link to the video shot this morning....



Not bad for less than one batterys' worth of time.



Funny how every Photographers style is different...this video very different from PK's.


edit: The thumbnail for this video tells me that I need to turn away from the wave face more as we go down the line...hopefully it will prevent the sliding up and over the falls...or at least postpone the enevitable...


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RE: RC Surfer - 11/21/2012 4:00 AM   
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I say less than one battery because there was some carnage this morning...

I have to remind myself "NO SHOREPOUND!!!!!"

The 'Divas could handle it...they loved it
but I have made these dudes 'lighter' in hopes of bringing down the overall weight




we were having a grand time...




Slash was tearing it up....kept trying to get another jump...


I really got lucky with that shot. I usually drop the Surfer in the water and then start the camera up...this time I started the camera and then dropped the surfer in. AND, my helmet cam actually fired at the right time AND in the right direction!

couldn't get another beauty like that first one.



then...




and...




ah$^#%!





Oh well....




Not like we haven't ridden headless before...lol




waves were pretty nice...couldn't stop now











then...I did mention the shorepound?



We're screaming along.....






What?!


OK! Thats's IT!



edit: Gathered up the pieces and got Slash all fixed up this afternoon...a little resin in the morning and we should be back out again.


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RE: RC Surfer - 11/21/2012 6:43 AM   
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Kite:

- love the water colors and your total committed surfing style with carnage to boot.

- hope to get some waves in Maui now my filming work has finished - but no real swell yet....

- keep charging



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RE: RC Surfer - 11/21/2012 7:33 AM   
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Hey Kite !...........great photos......great jumps........great GoPro perspective.....looked very Knarly ! I'm trying to get Lisa-Marie to venture into the water....in fairness, Fishoek is known for it Great White Sharks...............maybe she has a valid point....LOL

You may want to fit some 'buggy wheels' to your board .....ridding that kind of Shore Break.......LOL

You guys should consider either using a complete '3D Silhouette core' as I do, when making your surfer - or- placing a few stringers in strategic joints....I'm sure it will improve the strength considerably.


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RE: RC Surfer - 11/21/2012 8:25 AM   
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Mavericks Maxes at 25 foot backs, It breaks at 10 foot backs also,
Just looking to get a medium Size Mav Wave to Start.

As for as an 8 lb board surfing a 12 - 15 foot face, I'm corrected, My board is under 8 lb
I have this Pic That Pro Surfer Koa Smith (From Kauai) sent me a while back
that he surfed My XT Pro in waves he stated were 6 - 8 foot backs, so thats 12 - 15 foot face
From A Guy That Doesn't Guess on wave size, He normally under estimates wave size.
I still think Hugh & MJ caught even bigger waves from the recent pix...

MJ
Awesome New Board, It is Said " If It's Not Broken, Don't Fix It"
Keep Doing The Magic You Do, Same is Good ...

Kite
Great Pix and Vid, Bummer Slash Lost Limbs and a head. Seems Like "Bro" is the only
Figure that hasn't lost a toe yet, Although it's Neoprene and some glass, Looks like it takes the beating at 2 -4 foot faces rather well.

Brice
Gread Vid on Kyosho, I won't miss trimming all the flange on the dude for sure
Brings back memories, some that I want to forget...

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RE: RC Surfer - 11/21/2012 11:40 AM   
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Hey Curls

I'm not saying that a 4lb board cant find itself in a 'big wave picture' such as the one you have shared........the question is rather ..........How well did it 'actually' ride the wave ?.........I think I saw some video footage of that session a while back (on you site)- and I dont think the board had the speed or weight to handle the actual wave.... not surfing it convincingly.- IMO - speed and weight 'on a big wave' is AL GOOD.........what you bring the 'the face' is your call......either you 'blow others away' - or- you 'get blown away'......LOL
It could boil down to Penny wise - Pound Foolish !..........

I love watching NASCAR.....its hard to bekieve that Cars can FLY......but at high speed.........they sure do.

Dont forget to factor in, that as the board 'increases in surface area- so the weight factor needs to increase exponentially to keep it down.....adding to that the increased speed.

Blah Blah Blah......LOL

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RE: RC Surfer - 11/21/2012 12:04 PM   
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Hey Bricedenice.......I love the SHIPPING NOTE:........."May NOT SHIP to South Africa........I had nothing to do with that.....I promise.........LOL

$500 and you still have to build it and replace the Guts ????


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RE: RC Surfer - 11/21/2012 4:38 PM   
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                                        best gopro i have ever seen.  looks like you were bitten by a shark,,     plus what did i tell you about the shore pound,, LOL 


                                          

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ypc                                     thats the kind of tect talk i like ,, were on the same page.. great  info


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RE: RC Surfer - 11/21/2012 7:04 PM   
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Guys - thought this might be of interest to some of you who dont always have someone in tow to shoot photos/video. Not cheep but no doubt the price will come down with time (or other manufacturers will produce).

Always cool pics/video on this thread by the way!!

Matt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X3Zf8JXi9Ho
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RE: RC Surfer - 11/22/2012 12:49 AM   
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Got Slash back out at WindanSea for a lunchtime session...

As you can see he is fine...maybe more handsome now that he is a little more rugged.



A surfer mentioned that I made him Native American....I guess I did.

I really didn't ask Slash very many questions during the interview...I needed security for the Divas...he looked the part.

Heck, I do not even know his last name! Oh well, the girls feel safe with him around...I guess thats enough.


We showed up at WindanSea around 1200...am I in the Twilight Zone?



Where the heck is everyone? Nice waves and 4 surfers in the water?



Slash did not waste very much time...he was on!



Glassy waves all over the place.



Learned our lesson yesterday...we'll play away from the ShorePound!


Busted another Big Air from nowhere....gotta pay attention to what I'm doing...want that on demand!




Got some sweet rides in...ran two batteries during the tail end of the sweet spot in tide...we called it a day.



Bigger swell tomorrow! Happy Thanksgiving!


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RE: RC Surfer - 11/22/2012 3:29 AM   
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Kite:

Looks like Slash is snowboarding
do they make rc snowboards ..............how do they self right? ......any ideas

Maui has small rising North swell today, 2 battery packs after early golf
Hopefully bigger tomorrow Thanksgiving.

Happy waves & eat well

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RE: RC Surfer - 11/22/2012 4:35 AM   
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For those those who did not get waves today - here's two shots of Maui John showing the magic in his boards






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RE: RC Surfer - 11/22/2012 5:28 AM   
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Howzit Hugh.....whats up with the surf in your neck of the woods ?.....or is it a seasonal thing ?

Great looking 'carving action'.........

We had a Muai moment at home yesterday....LOL.....my oldest daughter 'Jessica !

All the best for Thanksgiving !

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RE: RC Surfer - 11/22/2012 6:33 AM   
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Jaw - Matt

Thanks for the Link, Awesome Set up to consider for sure.
Also, any word on our own page from the high up's ?
Maybe they reconsidered, since the tribe seems to be in harmony lately ?

I Can Change That Now ! Lol

Happy Thanksgiving To The Rc Surfer Tribes World Wide !
We all have a lot to be thankful for considering the advancements of our stoke this year.



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RE: RC Surfer - 11/22/2012 7:15 AM   
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Thanks for the reminder - Will do some follow up.

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RE: RC Surfer - 11/22/2012 8:25 AM   
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billybongo....

yes hard to fit a nice batt into the kyosho/nqd unless you enlarge the compartment... difficult on foamy kyosho but many have cut out the nqd compartments.....
Anyway I bought some 3600mah 3s batts from hobbyking that fit and go well with my 2200kv motor... there was a 5000mah 2s batt that would have fit though.... might be worth checking out the latest offerings if you are running a 3000kv motor.
I get good speed and approx 20mins in under 4ft waves... most of the volts are sucked out getting through the whitewash anyway... 2s in yours could give same results maybe even longer run time with the bigger mah's....... reckon YPC would know more about that comparo but.

Hey YPC.   Your thoughts on the crescent cut-outs sound good... after the mods i've done and thinkin more about them it could just be they were put in as an afterthought just to aid self righting... just my opinion but.

Btw NASCAR's are awesome... 350cubic inch naturaly aspirated V8's with over 600hp at 9000revs.... bugger all downforce exept for the banked turns gets them way loose like a bar of soap running around the bathtub. Rubbing is raceing and a small touch in the tail gets em spinning and with a bit of air underneath at those speeds yeh they fly like Kites latest airs.  

Great vision lately guys..... you are going to be so dissapointed when I get my crapcam happening... LOL.




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RE: RC Surfer - 11/22/2012 8:58 AM   
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Hey Bearcave.......good thought !

The crescents, as you mention, may well have been introduced as an after thought to improve the self righting - IF - the board was to light, cutting away the volume of the rail would decrease the effective buoyancy and therefore allow the board to sink better down to the required rotational axis - allowing it to self right easier.

This issue can be seen in the thicker custom boards - needing more weight, rather to sink the board down to its rotation axis line - rather than to counter the surfers weight.

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Common.......I'm waiting for that 'Headcam' footage..........even the test video you spoke about.......LOL

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RE: RC Surfer - 11/22/2012 11:31 AM   
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YPC....  I never thought about the self righting bouancy effect of a fat rail until I read what you said many posts ago regarding all the variables to consider when thinkin of weight needed to self right any board...

Just to keep your brain active here are some thoughts... (kyo/nqd versus boardshark)
I have a "boardshark" production board. I got it with a broken 'leaning' guy so i stripped it out electrically and added a leaky plastic 'Lisa' behind the guys feet... Initial tests showed me the board self righted very well even with LL (maybe due to the motor batt and driveline sunk much lower in the hull than kyo?)...... but did ride more flat, like not much leaning of the board in turns (maybe because of no cut-outs?....)

Anyway its a project for the future and the 'leaning' guy is in the cupboard atm I was just sharing some stuff for you to sleep on...... Karl has always run the 'leaning' guy... reckon the maui crew know much about these boards.... way ahead of the other two but i must say... The original Kyosho foam type hull is certainly a special board even if you have to build it like a custom.... and if anyone out there gets one i recommend 4 things you should do.
No.1 you keep it in the box for nostalgia reasons.
No.2 copy it and make another with the current information available and make it work better.
No.3 know everything there is to know now and modify it as you build.
No.4 (my version) build it like they say then continually modify the original mistakes/problems while enjoying the light weight foamy experience without worrying about how much you have changed its originality....

billybongo..... my last post regarding the batts was relating to a stock 30mm dia 1.4pich prop.... i tried a bigger dia prop good response slow speeds and was way fast but slow and grunty getting there.... smaller dia gave better variable throttle response and actually screamed at high speed but lost grunt in the slop..... temps were good in all situations 90amp seaking will be ample whatever way you go i am running same esc now..... actually that's a lie.... I am now doing more waterproofing on it cause I hate it when they get wet and go zzzzzttt.... best bet calculate as much as you can then run everything at 70% of the stated max....

YPC if i ever work out how to upload my camera vision..... might be best i just show the relevent surfing/boating vision.. LOL

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RE: RC Surfer - 11/22/2012 1:36 PM   
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IMO....I reckon....as I mentioned before- aerodynamics (WIND) really becomes a 'big issue' after 25 - 30 mph.....

As for the crescent cut outs in the Kyhoso - NQD boards - I've been waiting for what other Think.....!!
I dont believe they are chines - chines deflect water - creating lift - the crescent cut outs to me are quite ingenious. I believe they act much like a V hull would to a degree 'allowing the board to lean even more in the turns' yet maintaining a flatter more stable platform aft of the board in the straights
Its a partial stepped hull - rather than a V- hull......if you draw it out as a cross section - you can see the similarity to a shallow V bottom theory......
It should also 'allow' the board to ride flatter, rail to rail ( keeping the surfer more vertically upright) as it travels parallel to the wave face, due to wider greater symmetric shape ( the wider portion of the boards rail line) in fact being shallower in depth at the bottom, allowing the rail to fit into the waves radius better......hope that explanation made sense..

The 'safe theory practice' will tell you that you should not be running below 3.6 V /cell....which would be 14.4 v's per pack after the run....

I run the HK (inexpensive) micro digital 3.6 kg all metal gear servo's....... have not broken a gearbox to date.....I do run the single fin 'occasionally' - but - another ' bi-fin' plus is that it places very little force and load onto the servo. The two fins continually balance any applied force.....reducing the servo's load drastically.

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YPC hope you don't mind me posting this edited quote..... important stuff and with the 'crescent mystery"......

Anyway the two fins of a 'bi-fin' continually balancing the load is way interesting..... never thought about the self balancing servo saving less flex in the cable system that a bi-fin could acheive before.... may have less 'feel' but.... the more i think about it the more i think i have to make one soon....  

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