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RE: Club Laser? - 3/22/2007 3:15:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dave, Got the 180 yesterday. There is a updated instruction sheet (from the 70). It says max of 10,000 rpm for the 70. you might want to load it a hair more.

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RE: Club Laser? - 3/22/2007 4:50:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Jay, I was surprised at its power, especially on 5% nitro, most likely I'll run a Bolly 13.5x6, now for a plane. I take it that your 1.80 is a single, mine is a twin, let us know how it goes.

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RE: Club Laser? - 3/22/2007 9:08:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		The carb used on the West 4 strokes is a Webra unit

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RE: Club Laser? - 3/22/2007 9:17:55 PM   
Marcol



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Status: offline 		Guys,
Don't be afraid to load the Laser up with a big propellor. It's got torque by the bucketfull.

I run a 13 x 8 on my 70, so a 13.5 x 6 will be fine.

Because the Laser doesn't rev it's ass off people assume that it's lacking in power. But as we in the club know this isn't the case.

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RE: Club Laser? - 3/22/2007 9:58:02 PM   
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LUBRICATE through the BREATHER NIPPLE on the rear of the crancase before and after the initial running in and after every 3 hours running. Lubricate the engine if it is not to be used for some time and before running again. The breather nipple can be extended with tubing. Oil may come out of the front bearing if the breather is restricted, there is a lot of oil in the crankcase or the engine is left with the nose down. This will not harm the engine.

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Have for a laser 150 in operation for two years now. It works great.
Use 15% Aerosave oil and 8% Nitro, engine pointing down.

From time to time I pull the valve cover to check for valve clearance.
No problems, and everything is filled with oil there and no spot of corrosion.
Because the engine is leaking oil everywhere when it is stored after flying I know it must be lubricated well inside, and that is confimed every time when I open up the cover.

A month ago I started using the 200V engine. Filled it with a amount of oil through the breather when used the first time.
After that I did not apply extra lubrication the same way as I did with the 150.
It has a gallon through it and I noticed that it was loosing power when becoming warm, and was not as powerfull as in the beginning.
Today I pulled the valve-covers. It was quite dry inside, and one of the two spaces had the brownish muddy debree of corrosion inside.

So perhaps something to be aware of, it seems that, especially the twin, needs the insertion of oil through the breather before ande after flying sessions.

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RE: Club Laser? - 3/23/2007 3:41:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Marcol

The carb used on the West 4 strokes is a Webra unit

Thank you.

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RE: Club Laser? - 3/25/2007 5:49:21 PM   
Marcol



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Status: offline 		Hans,
As you are using aerosave oil, as I do, you shouldn't need to use any other corrosion protection.

On the last run of the day I throttle up to full power for about 30 seconds to get the engine hot and then run the engine dry. Either by pinching the fuel line or disconnecting it.

The Aerosave oil offers the best corrosion protection of anything I have tried BUT, you must NOT mix it with a mineral based oil .

This could be some of your problem with your 200V.

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RE: Club Laser? - 3/25/2007 6:56:13 PM   
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This could be some of your problem with your 200V.

No only Aerosave. What I've mentioned, the V-engine somehouw does not collect oil as a result of normal operation under the valve cover. After a day of flying it is dry there. After a flying day you have to insert a few cc's of oil through the breather. This will enter the room of the valve cover and will give the corrosion protection. This is what I have experienced with the V-200

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RE: Club Laser? - 3/27/2007 8:08:17 PM   
Marcol



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Is your 200V mounted inverted or upright ?

Colin

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RE: Club Laser? - 3/27/2007 8:27:20 PM   
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It is mounted inverted.

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RE: Club Laser? - 3/31/2007 11:33:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just picked up a Laser today at an estate sale. I think its a 1.50. It is stamped P-22, on the mount rail. Can anyone tell me for sure?

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RE: Club Laser? - 4/1/2007 3:29:34 AM   
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According to the pics here the 1.50 and the 3.00 twin have the purple carbs.

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RE: Club Laser? - 4/1/2007 7:18:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I looked at their website, and that's why I think I have a 1.50. Weight and hieght seem to mach as well, but I notice the newer models have more "rounded" shape than mine, so I just trying to confirm. I also noticed earlier in the thread, someone mentioned a purple carb on a .70, I think it was. This one came from the estate of a local flying buddy, and I'm pretty sure he had it for at least 10 years.

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RE: Club Laser? - 4/22/2007 10:33:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well it must be a 1.50. I ran it today and with an old 16x10 Classic prop it turned 8600 rpm. Saw up over 9K with a 16x8 APC, but could not get a good tach reading from the grey prop with the cloudy conditions today. Idle would tick over at 15-1600rpm. I was using Byrons 15% with 16% oil. This has to be the smoothest running four stroke I have ever run.
BTW, the guys at Laser said it was built in '96 or '97, based on the numbers stamped on the mount rail.
I need to get this puppy something to fly soon.

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RE: Club Laser? - 4/23/2007 1:50:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like Moki is making an exact copy or licensed version of the Laser engines.

http://www.remekmotorok.net/index.htm

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