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E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/4/2007 8:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey there,

I currently own a Revo with a os .18tm and was thinking of buying an electric MT.
I havent heard much about the E-Savage and was just wondering which one you guys think is best. I know the is the Traxxas forum so Im hoping that opinions wont be to biased.

Is electric going to disappoint me compared to nitro?

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/4/2007 8:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		if your contemplating going with the esavage, just go with the emaxx. So many more hop up options, and if your used to nitro, then you WILL want to hop up your emaxx to make it compatible. Youl probably want to go brushless, which is around 300.00!

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/4/2007 9:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		No. Do not go with the E-maxx. It is simply an inferior product. The only reason anyone mods the chassis or drivetrain on an E-maxx is because they are not strong enough stock, and it cannot handle the power from brushless setups stock. If you pick up an E-savage then you will only need one mod, a **** off brushless system. You can build up a good one for about $200 (mambamax @ $115 with a feigao 9l @ $70), for the price that 'hxtour' ben was suggesting you could build a system that would bury ANY nitro vehicle you care to mention.

One thing though, if you do go with an E-maxx, you will need to make it brushless just to keep up with an E-savage stock. Do not expect the E-maxx to perform anywhere near the E-savage stock.

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/4/2007 9:23 PM   
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i have th emaxx, with some good 7 cells or great 4000 6 cells youll be amazedd with the torque and power

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/4/2007 10:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, lilredmachine is indeed full of it... So then, I take it you have both of the vehicles in question? I do... Infact whilst my E-savage has remained largely stock, my E-maxx has become a pot of money that has been dragged through kershaw, the annals of brushless and 1/8th buggy technology, yet on 7 cell packs the stock E-savage only just looses out in both top end and acceleration.

And guess what i'm using at the moment? That's right, the E-savage, because the E-maxx is broken. Guess what the solution is? More aluminium. Because the stock truck is made of cheese.

So go on, don't let me stop you, your opinion is obviously far more valid than mine. Traxxas fanboy...

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/4/2007 11:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yikes! I have no opinion on the E-Savage, but the E-Maxx is indeed a money pit. I found out the hard way too.

Personally, I wouldn't was a penny on either of those trucks. Converting a Revo to electric is the way to go. Get a rolling chassis, an EMaxx transmission and your brushless system. It costs no more to build than a BL Maxx or Savage and it will be tougher and handle so much better. There's no reason to stay within the confines of what the manufacturers mass produce.

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/5/2007 12:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		lil red machine, do you have either of these vehicles? I have a revo and an emaxx and i can tell you from experience that the only way to make an electric truck as fun as a nitro one is to go with the HV novak 4.5 brushless system which is 300.00 on the dot!

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/5/2007 12:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just stick with nitro damm*T lol its so much better and you dont need to spend as much to make it fun, the stock emaxx and esavage come with the same size motors. An electric revo would be pretty sweet, but extremely expensive.

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/5/2007 2:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, of course! The E-maxx and E-savage come with the same size motors! That must mean the performance is exactly the same!!!11!!1one11
Just like the OS.21 in my Rex-x performs like the piece of crap Force .21 it came with! [/sarcasm]

Despite the fact they share the same size can, I can assure you that the E-maxx is about 4-5 mph slower out of the box than the E-savage, add 7 cells and you are looking at a 6-7 MPH difference... The motors in the E-maxx are the piss poor Titans, known for melting the cooling fans to the case. The motors in the E-savage are about 30 watts more powerful per motor, so thats a 60 watt difference with both taken into account. In overall power terms you are looking at a 25% difference in stock power on 6 cells, and that power gap grows on 7 cells.

When one of the members on here purchased both an E-maxx and an E-savage at the same time, he found that the E-maxx needed a HV-maxx bl system just to keep up with the stock E-savage. Take into account the 2 speed box on the E-maxx, and the fact the E-savage makes do with a single speed and you see how powerful the E-savage is compared to the E-maxx.

As for the electric Revo, the next best thing is an E-savage with Revo ends. Credit goes to Janosh for building the damn thing and getting the pics. TVP Revo anyone?


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lil red machine, do you have either of these vehicles? I have a revo and an emaxx and i can tell you from experience that the only way to make an electric truck as fun as a nitro one is to go with the HV novak 4.5 brushless system which is 300.00 on the dot!


I have both an E-maxx and an E-savage. The Revo is meaningless in this situation. As for the comparison between nitro and electric, it is a different kind of power and delivery. Brushed electric motors produce huge instant torque but don't have the top end of nitro motors, brushless motors have the same instant torque but with nitro destroying top end. By asking this question here you have opened up to two different biases, this forum is mostly nitro and heavily traxxas orientated. Ask anywhere out of this forum and the answer will be E-savage. E-maxx will always be the answer here.

One thing I forgot to mention, $300 for a brushless system? how much crack you been smoking? A Mambamax (though it is not made for the E-maxx/E-savage) will set you back $115 for the ESC and $70 for the Fiegao 8l-9l. Add $20 for a seperate ubec so you can run 16.8+ volts and you will be laughing.

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/5/2007 2:30 AM   
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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/5/2007 2:33 AM   
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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/5/2007 2:41 AM   
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Just stick with nitro damm*T lol its so much better and you dont need to spend as much to make it fun, the stock emaxx and esavage come with the same size motors. An electric revo would be pretty sweet, but extremely expensive.


If you can run year-round outdoor, this is the best answer. Enjoy your Revo/18tm! To put together an electric MT that performs as well as your Revo, can only be done with an electric Revo. Everything else will dissapoint.

An electric Revo doesn't have to be "extremely expensive." It has the same components as anything else. Granted, a top-of-the-line e-Revo can cost...but so can anything else.

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/5/2007 3:16 AM   
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crack??? son go to towerhobbies and look at the HV maxx system 4.5 is right around 300.00



Yes, but you wouldn't use a HV maxx system cos you can get a better set up cheaper. For $300 you could get a system that would destroy the HV-maxx.

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/5/2007 3:31 AM   
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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/5/2007 3:53 AM   
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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/5/2007 9:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think I will pour money into my revo, electric sounds like a hassle from what you guys are saying.
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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 3/10/2007 2:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		lilredmachine is right on the money. The E-Maxx sucks compaired to the E-Savage and YES I HAVE BOTH!
Whoever said the e-maxx is faster is smoking some crack because it is no where near as fast as an e-saavge lol.
The E-savage dominates the e-maxx in every category, the ONLY thing the e-maxx has on a e-savage is the aftermarket hop-ups and rightly so because they need them!
I had to buy a HV 4400 brushless novak for the e-maxx other wise i would have sold it right away, NOW it's finally FAST with a 17T pinion gear, HV 4400 brushless novak, and 7 cell IB4200's. It's still a turd when it comes to handling though!

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 12/23/2007 10:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am curious, as to how this debate goes concerning the new E-maxx that was released. Which I would take because the electronics package seems to be better. It wouldn't be that hard to swap out and get some quality brushed motors that are rebuildable, because you wouldn't want to run a brushless setup on a new E-maxx if you want to take advantage of those water sealed electronics. Brushless and water DO NOT MIX. Ever. Also in regaurd to lilredmachine on Mamba Max ESCs, they are not designed to take that many volts, even with out the BEC in operation. It also voids your warranty on your ESC, which, at least for me, was half the reason of getting one. (Kinda like how I buy FLM parts for the replacement at cost of S&H) So you might want to advise a cooling fan to go with that so some poor guy doesn't burn out a perfectly good ESC. (Yes I am aware that higher voltage products run cooler in relation to needing less Amps on the system) If you want a high voltage set up, buy the appropriate gear. You will be much happier in the end. As for me, I think it matters what you want to do with it, and how much you're willing to put into it to make it that way. For instance, for winter, I would want an E-maxx for the water resistant design. For summer I would want an E-savage for BMX/and park environments. I have ran and run HPI TRAXXAS and TAMIYA, and I find it is best to run them in the conditions they are suited for... Food for thought....

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 12/23/2007 10:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		oh yeah and another thing...(yes I rant) anyone know much it costs to build an esavage or emaxx from the ground up with hopups? that could be worth looking into?

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 12/23/2007 11:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't own both. But I have the e-maxx. It's a great truck, but it's a money pit (as mentioned earlier). Thats the reason I started driving my stampede VXL more and more until my e-maxx just sort of disappeared... The e-savage is built simular to the e-maxx but it's cheaper. I have also heard that the savage (nitro)'s durability is phonominal. I'm assuming that would be carried to the electric model. For the money and maby even for the truck the e-savage IMO is better.

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 12/23/2007 1:41 PM   
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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 12/23/2007 5:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you as me they are both (JUNK). Of course i would reather have traxxas over HPi LOL LOL LOL who the heck would want anything HPI? ........ I know sum 1 who either has no clue about the rc world or sum 1 with extra money they dont care about waisting it. If you want a great Electric truck either make an E revo or E muggy. But they both cost sum money to build. But overall nothin will be able to touch em. (NOTHING)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 12/23/2007 5:24 PM   
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1 the savage is one hell of a nice truck, as is the HPI baja 5B.

nothing will touch an e revo or muggy? uh.. i'd think considering with the nitro engines in the buggies and truggies rule the RC world, an electric buggy or truggy will kick both an e-revo or e-muggy (i do happen to own a truggy, a muggy and a revo by the way).

just for curiosities sake, i know a guy putting one of these in an on road car trying to hit 200 MPH, that motor makes 14.5 HP, in other words as powerful as a KX60 motocross engine and is the size of a soft drink can, think an e-revo will beat that lol.

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 12/23/2007 5:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		dude if any of your nitro vehicles could beat my E REvo i would gladly hand it over. LOL cuz if wouldnt happen. No way no how. (As for hpi cheap is all i gotta say.) and were talking about nitro not gas. but no reason to be mad cuz you dont know any better. its ok i wont tell anyone

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RE: E-Maxx vs E-Savage - 12/23/2007 5:58 PM   
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nothing will touch an e revo or muggy? uh.. i'd think considering with the nitro engines in the buggies and truggies rule the RC world, an electric buggy or truggy will kick both an e-revo or e-muggy


hmm, was i comparing nitro to electric there? uh no.... i take it your failed the reading portion of your English classes in pre school yeah?

as for savages being cheap, you really need to get your head out of traxxas's.... HPI makes a very good quality truck there, weather you like it or not is up to you but quality has nothing to do with function, an the savage is quality.

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