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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 10/13/2007 2:37:56 PM   
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Guys, I just ordered one. I have a power 32 motor and FP 2170 4s packs. Will this setup work?


I'm flying my Diamante with the 32. It's prpped for 750 watts and is useing TP 3850 Ext 4s pack
With your packs you'll get real short flights and real short pack life.

I'm probably going to sell my Diamante and get an Element 30 F3A so please do post pics of the 32 on the mount.
Thanks km

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 10/15/2007 6:14:31 AM   
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Thanks km, what prop are you using on your diamante? How much flight time do you get? The 3850's are going to be 4.4 oz. heavier, and the power 32 is only .3 oz. more than the recomended power 25, for a grand total =4.7 oz. I don't have any 4s 3850's. I do have 3 sets of 4s 2170's and one brand new 4s 2200. I don't want to fry them, mabey I should give some thought about a new motor?

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 10/20/2007 3:59:09 AM   
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Guys, I got my Element. The quality is on a new level! It is going to be a fun project! I decided to go with the power 25 motor. The power 32 would have required larger batteries (which I don't have). Unfortunately, I can't get to build right now. ( I'm going crazy!) This plane looks amazing and it is much bigger than it looks in the pictures! Has anyone got theirs yet?


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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 10/25/2007 6:30:30 PM   
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Guys,
I'm reviewing one of these (Fliton Element 30) for Fly RC magazine right now. When I find out which issue it will be in I'll let you know. The plane is almost built so I should be flying it this weekend. I fly Advanced in competition but I'm also working on the Masters sequence in practice so I should be able to give the plane a pretty good workout. Some quick thoughts for some of you guys who haven't seen this plane yet but are considering buying one:
1. Fliton airplanes are typically very light. This one is no exception. I say this because you have to consider this at all times. Light airplanes are great but don't expect them to take abuse. They're built to fly, not crash or survive altercations with walls, floors car doors, or other immovable objects. I LOVE light airplanes but I treat them with respect. If you're rough on equipment and / or don't know how to enter a snap correctly you WILL break this airplane.
2. The covering is made by World Models.
3. The included hardware is good. You don't need to replace anything unless you have a preference. I prefer DuBro E-Z connectors over the ones in the kit but that's just my personal preference.
4. The elevator is a joined 2-piece unit with one pushrod. The servo is mounted at the rear. The joiner is a bamboo dowel. I had to use this method since I'm doing a review. I'll let you know how it works. I'm skeptical.
5. I'm going with an Axi 2820/10 on 3S. I want to keep it light. 3S means I don't need a BEC. Like I said, I want to keep it light. I'm a little concerned about current draw with the 3S setup. We'll see. I'll post details when I see how it works.
6. The plane is bigger than it looks in the promo pictures but not really big enough for serious competition except maybe for Sportsman. Don't get me wrong, it's probably capable of flying Masters but you'll have to fly it in pretty close and it will feel the wind more than a bigger ship (size does matter). Depending on how well it flies it looks to be perfect for it's intended purpose: a practice tool for Pattern pilots.
7. Someone suggested a 1KW power system for this plane. Why? Maybe if you want over the top "3D" capability but that's not really what this plane is for. I flew a 1KW system in an Oxalys 50 and it was plenty for Pattern work. All you'll do is make the plane heavy and mow the lawn with that huge prop. <LOL>
8. The servo bays are set up for HiTec HS-81's. They fit perfectly - that's what I used.
9. The canopy is held on with rare earth magnets. It's really easy to get at the batteries and electronics so you don't have to cut a hole for the switch if you don't want to.
10. The wheel pants are mounted to the gear leg with one screw. If you have a rough field you can remove them quickly. The wheels have an obnoxious green center! After the review I'll fix this. <VBG>

I'll let you know how it flies when I get some stick time. It looks like a 2-meter ship but it's small enough to bring to work every day so you can practice on lunch hour. I hope it flies as good as it looks.

John Pavlick

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 11/2/2007 6:55:37 PM   
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Put one together for my friend with a Scorpion 3020-14/13 x 6.5E/TP 2200 4s/Commander 55 ESC. Nice flying pattern ship. Even more surprising was how well it will 3D. Didn't expect too much 3D with the aileron throws/setup but does the basics very nicely for a "pattern" ship. Getting about 700 watts(800 initial burst) and the 13 x 6 Xoar seems about the best overall prop but for strictly pattern and windy day flying the 11 x 8.5E was better.
Overall a great flying model. This one had a few issues but got them cleared up. Maiden had NO trim. Nice.... Used my handy dandy Craftsman laser level and it works. Last few models I've done have had 1 to no clicks of trim. Pays to take your time and get it as straight as possible.

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 11/2/2007 7:44:15 PM   
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Hi John,

I have similar concerns about the elevator joiner. I wish I had replaced it with a slit carbon tube- it would have been easy to do prospectively, but now that it's together, I'm not sure how best to stiffen this up. I'm thinking of laminating a carbon plate across the bottom but how to arrange it is bothering me. I still haven't flown mine, so I can't speak from experience, yet.

George

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 11/6/2007 7:13:36 PM   
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The joiner in this kit was completely split rendering it useless. Just replaced with some hardwood dowel stock I had laying around. Works fine. Been put thru the ringer and no issues on the elevator yet. Give it the old pull test and if it passes fly it! You'll love the plane, very stable point and shoot type flyer but will 3D too.

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 11/14/2007 5:03:07 AM   
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the **** aj extra comes with this thing called the 'elevator stiffy' which gets rid of the entire wooden dowel and replaces it with a carbon rod and two carbon fiber paddles. thing is rock solid like its got dual elevator servos. i think new elements come with it too...

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 11/19/2007 4:10:13 AM   
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I finally got a chance to fly the Element 30 this weekend. IT IS SWEEEET! I was very pleased with my Vanquish, but the Element grooves better. Both are good, but I really liked the "feel" of the element. It lands like a feather!

I did stiffen up the elevator connecting piece with a carbon strip and some epoxy- otherwise mine's stock with the Hacker and 4S lipo

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 11/30/2007 9:27:28 AM   
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Here's some video I shot of my friend Blake hucking the Element over the lake in his backyard. It 3D's just about as well as it flies pattern! Enjoy...

http://www.****/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37361


http://youtube.com/watch?v=iowKOXAvlck

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 1/31/2008 10:53:01 PM   
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If I go with an E-Flite 25 in this bird is a 4S 2200 going to be enough for 10 min. flights or do I need to go to a heavier 4S 3300 mah ?

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 2/12/2008 2:38:51 PM   
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Been out of flying for a few years.
What does "hucking" mean?


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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 2/13/2008 1:35:20 AM   
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Been out of flying for a few years.
What does "hucking" mean?





It's another name for flying 3D manuvers. You know when someone tries to make his plane fly like a Heli but never really does succeed

That being said I don't like 3D but that young fella really impressed me. If he put his mind to it he probably could actually fly that thing like a real airplane

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 3/4/2008 8:59:36 PM   
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I was going to get a Fliton Element....but I went with a Hyperion Helios F3A instead....and glad I did. The Helios is spectacular in performance. In my opinion the Helios is the perfect Sportsman class beginners plane.

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RE: New Fliton Element 30 F3A plane! - 5/19/2008 3:23:58 PM   
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Any new information or impressions from those that have been flying this for a while?


Joe

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