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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 4/15/2007 11:01:44 AM   
BoneDoc



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Status: offline 		The 20C 4900 is capable of at least 1800 watts. That's 200 watts / lb on a 9 lb airframe. You just have to mate it to the correct motor.

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 5/4/2007 8:53:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		any more info on this plane... has anyone seen it yet?

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 5/5/2007 1:45:42 AM   
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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 5/19/2007 11:55:54 PM   
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http://www.chiefaircraft.com/rcmsec/Models/ElectricAirplanes/Kits/FLIInspire90.html

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 5/20/2007 1:08:46 AM   
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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 5/20/2007 6:26:20 PM   
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After finding that fliton was making an inspire 90 a while back i had to research it. I am in love with the
plane. I am looking to go inexpensive for the setup though. I looking at an E-flite Power 60 with the new
E-flite 60 amp esc. It looks like a great 6s pattern plane.

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 5/23/2007 9:48:45 PM   
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Hi guys,

After finding that fliton was making an inspire 90 a while back i had to research it. I am in love with the
plane. I am looking to go inexpensive for the setup though. I looking at an E-flite Power 60 with the new
E-flite 60 amp esc. It looks like a great 6s pattern plane.



I'm sure some will disagree, seems that's always the case on these boards but... I fly an Inspire 60 (Axi 4130/16, Spin 75, EVO 6S2P 5000, 17 x 10) and I'd have to say this plane is an 8S minimum. I agree a 6S will get it off the ground but 8S is really in the sweet spot and on top of that, I draw 52 AMPs now with my setup so you may want to step up to a 75 minimum ESC. Just to give you some background, I fly only electrics, up to 12S and Ithink if you run the numbers in MotoCalc, you'll come to the conclusion that 6S will fly, possibly well but certainly not "inspire" you...

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 6/6/2007 10:48:19 PM   
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8S on a 60 sized plane? no way in my opinion. 6S is tons of power for me and everyone i know flying the isnpire 60. inspire 90, i plan to go 8S with 18x10 prop. speaking of which, i am told this bird will be in-stock in 1 week... cant freakin wait.



No, 8S for the plane we are talking about in this forum, the Inspire 90. I was saying I fly the Inspire 60 with 6S and IMO 6S is not enough to really get the performance you'd expect from the Inspire 90, contrary to someone else saying 6S should be more than enough...

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 6/7/2007 12:47:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Did ya'll know that Piedmont is just about (less than 4 weeks) to come out with a 90 size focus with adjustable stabs and 2piece wing for $439... It's called the focus sport. I think this is going to be the BEST deal for a budget intro pattern plane. Only the Spot-on 120 and the Inspire 90 will come close.

I've got one with my name on one. I also took advantage of the summer sale on a new YS 110 FZ-S to go with it.

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 6/7/2007 9:36:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		6S vs 8S depends on the amps. My TRex 600 batt can go to 2000 watts. Don't tell me that even if this plane comes at 10 lbs (doubt it since the numbers tell us that it'll come in around 8-9 lbs) 200 watts/lb is "not enough".

But then again, only time will tell.

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 6/9/2007 7:22:47 PM   
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6S vs 8S depends on the amps. My TRex 600 batt can go to 2000 watts. Don't tell me that even if this plane comes at 10 lbs (doubt it since the numbers tell us that it'll come in around 8-9 lbs) 200 watts/lb is "not enough".

But then again, only time will tell.



Batteries are rated in volts and amps, watts express the amount of work done by a certain amount of electric current (amps) at a certain pressure (volts). The numbers you see when you measure the wattage (whattmeter I assume?) is input wattage, only partially related to the outout power as different motors, gearboxes and propellers can reduce efficiency to less than 50% in some cases. So when you say your battery is capable of 2000 watts, that does not equate to the motor producing 2000 watts of power at the propeller when you make your 200 watts/lb analogy.

Take the 2000 watts measured by the whattmeter (input power, not power at the propeller), if you were running a 6S pack that would be a 90 amp draw on your battery, not exactly ideal when designing the ideal combination of battery, speed controller and motor. Yes, it is slightly less than the rated 20C (100 amps) continuous amperage draw the battery is capable of but not a good design if one were building this system from scratch and looking for the ideal combination of components to use.

Change that battery to an 8S and you now have a more sustainable draw of 67 amps (your battery will thank you for this on hot days) and the ability to comfortably use a 75 amp speed controller. I say this not to say you are wrong BoneDoc, I have read your posts before and I know you are knowledgable, I say this only to prevent someone from assuming a battery is a battery and simply interchangeable from model to model. The single biggest change one can make to the power and performance of an electric plane is to change only the battery, for that reason I try and match them to the application. If you keep a battery well within its operating parameters it will last longer not to mention have the extra kick when needed...

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 6/10/2007 8:35:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't disagree with the fact that if you're starting from scratch, 8S is a safer option, especially if you're using batt in the 4000 mah capacity. It's just that technology has moved now to the point where 6S if properly matched to the motor, will do well.

At any rate, on to a different topic. I talked to Edson today, and it should be in pretty soon .

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 6/10/2007 11:41:21 PM   
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At any rate, on to a different topic. I talked to Edson today, and it should be in pretty soon .



I'm still on the fence with this one, I love the look and size plus I have an Inspire 60 and LOVE it. It's just that I have a C-ARF Impact I'm building (waiting for the hot Florida weather to be gone, say October) so I am not sure I need two of the same thing. Part of me says the Inspire 90 will be a cheaper alternative and something I can be comfortable on less-than-perfect days plus I have 10 6S2P EVO 5000 packs (plenty of them!) that I plan on running in series on the Impact (12S) and only 3 4S packs floating about for the 8S packs the Inspire 90 would require.

Tough decision...

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RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane - 6/13/2007 4:53:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Talked to Edson today, and he said that the Inspire is clearing customs as we speak. He should have it in his warehouse in the next week / two.

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