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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/4/2008 10:17:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Tim on my arf FW190 I am going to try moveing my servos above the main wing spar , then use heavy duty 4-40 rods , aprox 6 to 7" in lenghth .
I figure if I can limit all possible binds to advoid flutter it will be a major saving in weight that was behind the CG . As we all know these planes end up being tail heavy based on the short nose . If I take the rugular precautions ect , is should not pose a problem comsidering the lenghth of the typical rudder /elevator rods that run the length of the full fuse .

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/4/2008 10:34:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey LDM that's really a good idea wish I had done that with this build.....I'll have to remember when I start my willhobby fw190.

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/5/2008 1:18:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks FW , I actually got the idea from Hal Humphry when he and I were building/bashing the same Seafurys . I did not take care when bashing to think about the short nose , Hal on the other hand had everything in his seafury infront of the main wing spar , in the end I had to add over 24oz of dead weight -I hate that !!!!
Then when reading about the KMP Typhoon , major weight had to be added , so you realize that its the nature of the short nose warbird(model) real plane had the major engine weight . Even my pilot will lose weight , he is 7.5 oz full body , I plan on keeping the head , feet and hands , all the rest will be carved out of foam , there is no way I am adding 7.5 oz in a Pilot on or near the CJ

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/5/2008 2:22:39 AM   
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Thanks FW , I actually got the idea from Hal Humphry when he and I were building/bashing the same Seafurys . I did not take care when bashing to think about the short nose , Hal on the other hand had everything in his seafury infront of the main wing spar , in the end I had to add over 24oz of dead weight -I hate that !!!!
Then when reading about the KMP Typhoon , major weight had to be added , so you realize that its the nature of the short nose warbird(model) real plane had the major engine weight . Even my pilot will lose weight , he is 7.5 oz full body , I plan on keeping the head , feet and hands , all the rest will be carved out of foam , there is no way I am adding 7.5 oz in a Pilot on or near the CJ

LDM,
Here is a couple of stuka pilots that crashed and are waiting for there new fw190.
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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/5/2008 2:43:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		lol, thats cool , I was thinking of going with a legless louie , but I felt bad leaving the guy withour critical parts in the event they go on leave and meet a good looking frauline !!!! , (sorry spell check )

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/5/2008 2:55:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		thanks for the pics fw190a8 it gives me some ideas,I am leaning towards the light weight robart 85o gear since I already have a air kit for them and there shallow in thickness for this thin wing,CJ wants 280$ for there gear made specificly for this plane just a bit too much to spend right now.

LDM, the aileron servo will be jammed up against the center wing spar which on these kits is a plywood stringer, forward of this stringer there just isn't enough room to put the servo,it definatly crossed my mind.
the pushrod will be at least 4-5" from the aileron placing the servo near the CG,this set up will allow me to place the flap servo also near the CG in the center of the wing.
with this stumpy nosed bird weight forward is my main priority without a doubt.

this is where I intend to mount the servo hatch in the wing,with the servo placed in the wing bay.
also some of the solid wood pieces I have been cutting out of my thick sheets of wood, tonight I think I will frame up the H-stab also with some mods so that I can mount the V-stab to it avoiding having to use the balsa tree in the tail area that the kit has.replacing it with stringers and sheeting ala Top flight.

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/5/2008 2:57:04 AM   
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Thanks FW , I actually got the idea from Hal Humphry when he and I were building/bashing the same Seafurys . I did not take care when bashing to think about the short nose , Hal on the other hand had everything in his seafury infront of the main wing spar , in the end I had to add over 24oz of dead weight -I hate that !!!!
Then when reading about the KMP Typhoon , major weight had to be added , so you realize that its the nature of the short nose warbird(model) real plane had the major engine weight . Even my pilot will lose weight , he is 7.5 oz full body , I plan on keeping the head , feet and hands , all the rest will be carved out of foam , there is no way I am adding 7.5 oz in a Pilot on or near the CJ

LDM,
Here is a couple of stuka pilots that crashed and are waiting for there new fw190.
[image] [/image]

they look battle tested

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/5/2008 3:05:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tom , that still is pretty far forward , better then most that are mounted near the trailing edge .Hey if your looking for scale thin Fw tires , williams brothers is back in business and the wheels look great

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/5/2008 7:47:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		LDM, I was checking those wheels out they look perfect for the Wolf,I will ask my LHS to order some for me.

so I am sitting in my shop watching some Hockey,the Sharks, and as I post this its the 4th overtime what a game.

I did get the H-stab all framed up and the elevator cut out of elevator stock material,I did get larger material so I included the trim tabs into the elevator.
where I deviated from the plan is to reenforce the center section where the rudder/V-stab will attach to the H-stab the W shaped ribs will strengthen the sheeting at the attachment point.
I am also going to sheet the tail with 1/16 balsa to keep things light,since I am glassing with .56oz glass and WB poly it will help strengthen the tail,so I felt the thinner wood would be fine.
doh! Sharks lost,helped me get some work done though

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/5/2008 10:29:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looks great Tim , keep it up .

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/5/2008 5:48:09 PM   
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I finally committed to using a fixed tailwheel setup instead of the "CJ TF FW190 retractable Tailwheel".
I used two blind nuts and a piece of plywood along the inside bottom tail section along with a dubro semi-scale tail wheel fixed assembly.
It was getting to complicated for me to make this work as a retractable unit.

I'm interested in selling the "CJ assembly", any one interested please contact me through the RCUniverse member email.

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/6/2008 12:50:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am debating on the sierra tail set up or simply going fixed , the retracted tail wheel is so negleable in the Fw190 , I figured why add the weigh to the tail when its barely noticiable in the air vs being retracted .

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/6/2008 2:22:33 AM   
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I am debating on the sierra tail set up or simply going fixed , the retracted tail wheel is so negleable in the Fw190 , I figured why add the weigh to the tail when its barely noticiable in the air vs being retracted .

The sierra tail gear sure looks like one nicely engineered piece of work from what I've seen of it on rcuniverse. I'm debating as well getting it for my willhobby fw190 as like you I'm going to put a G26 up front. Awh, decisions, decisions ...thats what I like about this hobby ...I'll put it off till later. I keep thinking how well the Kentucy Colonels plane looked before it crashed.
I had better get an extra airframe as the retracts are worth more then the plane.

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RE: Royal-FW190A8 - 5/6/2008 2:30:48 AM