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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just Fo... - 8/24/2007 12:48:40 AM   
shufflez



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Status: offline 		Thanks a lot for this info! I'm awaiting arrival of the Xtreme 180 motors/engines, with silver brushes, any specific notes on these silver ones? Or just the same as with the carbon ones?

I'm definately going to break the motors/engines when i get them! I really like the Amp-'improval' you've achieved with breaking-in!
Which should mean that the flight time is longer, which is what we all want!

What exactly is the difference between silver and carbon brushes? I've read somewhere that one gives more power, the other gives better durability, but can't find where i saw that... And can't remember which is which .
So I just ordered some replacement/spare silver brushes for my 'engines' (you cant really call them engine, can you (in Dutch, both mean the same; engine=motor, motor=motor ...
But maybe carbon brushes are good to have in stock too?


(currently only for the CX2, still trying to decide between 450 or 600 and gas or electric for my next heli)

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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just Fo... - 8/24/2007 4:44:36 PM   
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I do believe that carbon gives the better performance and the silver would last longer, although I am not really sure. I'm also not really sure if there would be anything special you would have to do, but I would say just break them in as normal =)

You could try a set of each and see how they perform and see which ones you like the best. The car guys might know more about what kind of brushes are good for which application. They would deal more with motors with interchangable brushes than us heli guys =)

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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just Fo... - 10/15/2007 2:53:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great guide! Question: do you think...

1) It's worth it to do this to a motor that has been used around 10 times without performing the break-in process?
2) Running it in water cleans the commutator better/more easily than disassembling the motor and using an eraser/sandpaper?

Thanks!

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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just Fo... - 10/15/2007 10:23:00 AM   
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1) sure, better late than never, but it's better to do it basically right when you get it. I don't really know where it starts making alot of difference (like where it would be too late), but I would imagine it's past 10 flights, or 1.5-2.5 hours flight time.

2) I think the water would be better (just make sure to clean it all out and relube it), because when you take it apart you could mess up the angles that the brushes touch the com (timing) or tension on the brushess or a bunch of other things. Most motors are not designed to take apart, so you might also have trouble getting them to stay together once they are apart. YMMV, but that's the approach I would take.

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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just Fo... - 10/15/2007 8:00:20 PM   
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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just For... - 11/5/2007 2:23:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, great guide. What about breaking in motors such as the Align motors that have 3 leads (Red-Blue-Black) coming out of the motor? Is this break-in "really " needed?

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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just For... - 11/5/2007 9:23:43 AM   
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Thanks, great guide. What about breaking in motors such as the Align motors that have 3 leads (Red-Blue-Black) coming out of the motor? Is this break-in "really " needed?


Thanks =)

that's probably a brushless motor if it's got 3 leads, so in that case nope, no breakin required =)


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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just For... - 11/5/2007 3:33:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Whistler71

Thanks, great guide. What about breaking in motors such as the Align motors that have 3 leads (Red-Blue-Black) coming out of the motor? Is this break-in "really " needed?


Thanks =)

that's probably a brushless motor if it's got 3 leads, so in that case nope, no breakin required =)



Cool, thanks and sorry for the newbie question, it IS a brushless. Thanks again.

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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just F... - 11/5/2007 11:57:26 PM   
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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just F... - 1/1/2008 5:33:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		mrasmm,
I just finished reading your how to guide on motor break-in and thought it was great. Thanks for that info.
Heres a picture of me breaking in my new xtreme motors with silver brushings for my Blade CX2.

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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just F... - 2/28/2008 11:30:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		i would like to do this to the motors on my Honey Bee FP that will be here in a few days, but my dad doesnt want me to becasue he thinks that it will do more harm then good.. what should i do? lol

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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just F... - 2/29/2008 7:27:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Micro RC Racing Owner Shane

i would like to do this to the motors on my Honey Bee FP that will be here in a few days, but my dad doesnt want me to becasue he thinks that it will do more harm then good.. what should i do? lol


well have him read the article if he hasn't, and see if that helps him make more sense of the benefits of doing it. If not, then I guess that's where you are =) The motors are only like $10 bucks depending on where you buy them, so it's not too big of a deal either way, as long as it doesn't cause damage to the 4 in 1 =)

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RE: Brushed Electric Motor Break-In Guide (Not Just Fo... - 5/19/2008 4:49:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		excellent explanation. keep up the good work to all. mysteryguymlt

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