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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/8/2008 3:27:23 AM   
20%nitro


 

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Status: offline 		jae your beast was hookin up in the vid looked good in the air too. i added a 28mm huge heat sink to the ammo and the hottest i could get it was 163. i took the a miain with 42 laps and spanked 2 fast 18ts and another detta. jae do you know of a threaded shock that will work on the detta truggy? i wonder about the mini inferno st shock by 3 racing. any help would be good.

oh yeah i got my inferno tires. too big----- oh well i might run the truggy offroad sometime so ill keep them.

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/13/2008 6:28:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have been reading these posts, and the Vendetta thread, and cannot find gear ID information.

I am trying to set up my ST for the CM4200/Mamba combo, and need a source of pinion gears of the right diameter/pitch/module(modulus) to match the stock gears. Note that the CM4200 is a 2mm shaft. I got some Associated 48Pitch, but the diameter is enough smaller to decrease the "mesh" of the gears.

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/13/2008 7:22:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		what gearing are u using,,, or trying to use.... and u might need to get a 49t spur gear.... check www.rcmart.com under andersonmb4 in the microsection,,,, they should have what ur looking for

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/13/2008 11:30:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't know what gearing I intend to use yet. My main goal is to have brushless motive power since I have gone through THREE of the stock 7500 ESC's so far after going to the 1200 mA battery packs. I purchased a range of 11-15 of the Associated gears for testing, but the overall diameter of a 13t stock and Associated 48P are different.

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 12:17:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		not to rain on your parade.. but that isnt the best choice for a motor

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 1:01:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Rain all you want. It was $20.00, and I meant to type "CM2042". It is the 4200KV Mamba, and I am matching it to the Mamba 25A controller. With that said, what is the correct pitch/modulus gear to purchase for a 2mm shaft in a Vendetta ST?

I also have a Permax BL-400/4D to try, but I plan on testing both setups. The Permax will use the stock gears nicely, but I need the correct gears to fit a 2mm shaft for that Mamba

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 1:18:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I already told u whete to go,,,, and ur not going to be very happy with the lil tiny mamba motor,,,,

with out knowing what gearing ur going to use,, there is no way to just give u the link to a particular gear,they may not make it,,,

the pinion needs to be a 48 pitch metric ,, I thjink its .6 module,,,

and the permax will tear every gear u have if u gear it at either 16/45 or 13/45 (stock gearing) the permax is best when geared at 19/45 or 21/45,,,,,

btw have u read this thread from the beginning,,,, reason I ask,,, what makes u think the 4200 will be able to do anything,,, it will probably be as fast as the vr3 motor,,,,,

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 1:28:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you notice in my posts, my MAIN reason is cost, and moving to BL vice Brushed. I am done with burning up $50.00 brushed controllers every few runs. I am not after blistering performance. I am a recreational player, and not a racer at all. If the CM2042 has performance roughly equal to the stock brushed motor, I have achieved MY goals. If I notice a difference in performance that makes the Permax a better fit for MY use, I may stick with it. Otherwise, the Permax is earmarked for my EasyGlider Electric.

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 2:36:54 AM   
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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 3:25:48 AM   
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check rcmart.com



I did. I am still looking, since it appears they do not have much for 48P, .6module with a 2mm shaft hole......

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 5:03:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just brought a Mamba Competition X which include the 8000kv motor. Can you help me find the right pinion gear for the motor which also fit the spur gear. please let me know where to get it. And if you can, Please let me know how to gear it up......thanks alot..........johnny

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 5:56:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		johnny you should look at page 1 of this thread. if the comp x is going in a vendetta st or buggy you may want to reconsider. i tried them in mine and toasted one in 4 minutes and another in 3 four minute runs. they seem to work ok in a rc18t or b but a detta is heavier and for some reason seems to need a lot more motor and battery than the associated rigs. if you cant find a pinion i saw a fellow take a pair of scissors to a pop can and cut a piece to just wrap around the shaft slightly less than one time and the detta pinion fit ok. but i would still suggest you re-think the comp x.

im still looking for threaded shocks that work with the vendetta st . anybody got some help?

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 9:56:12 AM   
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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 6:38:05 PM   
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yes,,, u guys need to read page one



I for one, DID read page one. Thank you for that information.

Now on to the question at hand......

Does ANYONE have a good source for 2mm shaft pinions that will work in the vendetta?

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/14/2008 6:43:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Atomic is the only one who makes 2mm .6mod pinions for the detta & mini quake. You can get them at thetoyz.com or rcmart.com.

With any of the mambas, you will have to gear down as much as possible. I think the stock mount allows you to go down to 11T, so start from there. Watch your temps, and maybe even toss a fan in there. Better yet, would be to trade or sell the mamba and use the cash to buy a 2.3mm or 3.2mm shaft motor (28mm diameter cans).

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RE: Vendetta Brushless motors... pros/cons - 1/18/2008 6:47:48 PM   
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