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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 5/14/2008 12:37 PM   
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hmm yeah i reackon i too should have got a electric ducati before nitro , these thing are just far too frustraing to get used to steering , i think flying a plane would have been easier

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 5/26/2008 9:48 AM   
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Yes heard from a friend that bikes are the hardest to control.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 6/8/2008 2:05 PM   
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How does the EP version of the TT Ducati 999 runs, does it need any hop-ups before I can run it? I am looking at getting one and hope it doesn't need any hop-up as I would like to run it stock 1st.



You'll be able to run it stock, However a better set of tyres would be a huge upgrade. The casted swingarm & steering pivot will need replacing as these tend to be the first things to break, Oh and also there is a easy mode to replace the fuel tubing steering with springs.

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hmm yeah i reackon i too should have got a electric ducati before nitro , these thing are just far too frustraing to get used to steering , i think flying a plane would have been easier


Keep with it, you'll get there. The electric bike is easier to run IMHO, but both bikes still turn using the some method.
Do you have your steering reversed?
When I was starting off with my first bike, Someone told me to "Turn the bike by using quick imput on the transmitter wheel to lean the bike, Once the bike is leaning use the throttle to control the the arc of the turn."

This helped me out, I was so close to selling the bike on ebay, Hope it helps you too.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 6/8/2008 2:42 PM   
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Here's a pic of one of my race bike with the "spring steering mod" I talked about in the above post. You can also see the milled swingarm, milled steering pivot.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 7/9/2008 7:30 PM   
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I assume the 999 and Desmo-thing are technically the same with just different bodies??


You are correct. You also get a rear tire hugger with the Desmo and a rider that sorta looks like Loris Capirossi. I bought mine from ThunderTiger4U like mOnO n.s.G^ suggested.

Here is an updated picture of my bike, after I did some more paint work and detailing so that it looks like the GP6 version of the MotoGP racer.





What kind of paint did you use do paint your exhaust tip black? Just noticed the painted swing are too! Nice. I'd like to paint mine if I'm confident it won't chip and look bad after a few runs.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/24/2009 4:46 PM   
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Hi Guys, I just picked-up a TT electric, and have some questions.

* Is the FM1-e the same as the Ducati Electric, they look identical except for the swingarm? I would like to buy a FM1-e body and carbon chassis and not sure this will work.

* Steering, how much left to right steering throw is enough?

*I cant seem to keep this bike upright and running, even in straight line is leans left or right, and seems to have little to no steering even though I have the steering throw as far as it will go left and right. Yes Im learing to drive, but if the bike cant even go in a straight line this will be a challenge. Is this normal? I have checked my bike over an over for something wrong, but everything is in working order.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/24/2009 5:15 PM   
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Bikes turn by leaning.

Make sure the wheel turns in the opposite direction to the TX input.That is...left input moves the front wheel to the right and vice versa.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/24/2009 5:32 PM   
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Yes, I checked the steering inputs and they are like you say.

I just seems the steering insnt very responsive, sometimes its wants to turn but doesnt, and other times it turns really sharp with little or no input.

Sorry guys, Ive been in RC over 30yrs and never touched a motorcycle until now. I wish I wouldve looked closer at these bikes along time ago, they are real trick and I think Im about to go Motorcycle crazy.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/24/2009 6:29 PM   
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Kyle.. maybe a couple of things here will help you out... The stock bike's front tire is not really suited for the bike, It has a wedge shape that makes controlling the bike at slower speeds very difficult.. Also, learning to drive you will have a tendency to drive slow.. maybe you are going too slow.. Its easier to drive the bike especially when learning in a larger area free from obstacles and go faster.. the faster you go the more stable it is.. There is a fairly large learning curve with these bikes and they take time.. I never bothered with the stock motor and immediately threw in a brushless system..
The factory steering is unresponsive at best, but it is drivable until you will want to upgrade it.. You don't want alot of throw in the steering.... to turn you want the bike to lean, thats how they turn... If you have any full scale bike experience it helps, but even a regular bike (mountain bike or road bike) works the same way.. The steering upgrade just makes it more responsive.. Most of the guys here upgrade to a digital servo for the steering.. It allows it to return to center accurately.. the stock in gets close but is slower and if its not centered, the bike won't go straight without your input...
I remember when I first learned how to drive a bike.. I thought I would never get it.. eventually I did as does everyone else... having previous car experience will help with orientation... when its coming at you...

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/24/2009 7:52 PM   
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Thanks for the input, I think I just need to drive it more, but I agree the stock motor doesnt seem to move the bike fast enough to get a stable ride. Is there a good brushless set-up anyone can suggest, Ive seen the Caste Sidewinder with 5700KV motor but thats all Ive seen put in these bikes, and I heard that is a extemely fast set-up.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/25/2009 3:52 AM   
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Thats what I run and I am very happy with the performance.. Its very fast, but easy to drive as well.. the nice thing about the Castle ESC is the Castle link.. you can program the esc to do just about anything.. Its in most of the bikes because it works very well... isn't too expensive and is very fast... Its very drivable with NiMh batteries and really screams with Lipo's....

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/25/2009 4:47 PM   
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Im gonna look into that set-up OK I did run a couple more battery packs through the bike and I am getting a little better at driving, Im still trying to learn turning, I installed my M11 in the bike, and am now going to do some fine tuning on the stearing servo, I think I need to dial-down the EPA a little bit, and turn down the servo speed a touch. Im not a big fan of the way they have the steering set-up on the servo, with the cheap fuel tubing on the servo horn, I think that will be my first hop-up, to find a better steering system.

I think one of these should help, anybody know
http://2wheelhobbies.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_34&products_id=684
http://2wheelhobbies.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_38&products_id=351


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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/26/2009 6:26 AM   
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Kyle.. the 2nd option works fine.. I run two of them, but one will work as well... anything is better than the rubber tubes.. also change the tires..those are the first things that should be done.. I ended up with GRP rubber, but you can use the tires from the nitro as well... The electric tires are too hard....

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/26/2009 7:29 PM   
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OK I ordered a dampner kit, tires, and a Castle Sidewinder 5700kv brushless system. In the meantime I am taking my bike apart to get ready for the new goods.

I took the rear swing-arm and cut-off the dummy arm, It really opens things up visually in the rear. I want to order the TT single swing arm but cant find anyone that has it in stock.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/26/2009 7:52 PM   
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Kyle.. don't crash the bike with the swingarm cut like that.. It will bend on the first heavy crash.. they used support on both sides for a reason.. Good luck finding the TT single arm.. I just saw one go on ebay for almost $60... too much for that part.. there are good aftermarket ones that you can easily get...
I see you have the knockoff TT bike.. The red chassis is a givaway.. don't have any experience with that one, but from what I'm told.. its exactly the same... I don't know if your tires are glued on the stock bike or not, but when you run the brushless, you will have to glue them or they will spin right off... Let us know when the new parts come in... You will love it... next up is the lipo battery.. If running nimh.. make sure to turn off the LVC... it will drive you nuts if you don't .....

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/26/2009 8:37 PM   
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Yeah this is the knock-off, I compared the two with a guy at the LHS and they are identical. I will say the hardware on this bike sucks, cheap screws that break and strip easy. I am replacing all screws with better ones.

Thanks for the tip on the swing-arm, luckily the stock swing-arm isnt that much if I break this one

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/27/2009 12:15 AM   
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The screws aren't a whole lot better on the original... they will strip easy as well.. especially the axle screws... make sure you have a spare swingarm as you will need it... looks great however.. but just not supported well if the bike crashes on the rear.. It bends too easy. .I've messed up quite a few stock ones... I was surprised how easy it bent, and being aluminum it doesn't bend back...

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/27/2009 4:51 PM   
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I wish they sold this in kit form, so I can build it myself. Im not impressed with the quality control or the build from the factory. If anyone gets one of these bikes I strongly reccomend taking the whole thing apart and rebuilding it. Screws are either overtightended or undertightened. OK thats enough ranting about the poor Quality control, bottom line is this is one cool bike, its just needs a little TLC.

I have a question on gearing, what pitch are the pinion and spur gear? and should I look into re-gearing for the Castle 5700kv motor?

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/27/2009 5:19 PM   
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If it's the stock TT electric set it's 34dp..an oddball size.

Best to get a 32dp pinion and spur set up,or anything you can get different ratios for.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/28/2009 6:49 PM   
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Kyle.. I'm running the stock spur and either a 16 or 18 pinion.. whichever isn't the stock one.. I forget.. Its been a while since I had to take the bike apart other than replacing the body from the constant wheelies..

The build quality on the factory TT bike was good.. buts its always a good idea to check all the hardware.. I do that with all my r/c's.. just a habit that I always got into .....

As bikeracer said.. it is an odd size.. I got my spare gears from Bruce at 2wheelhobbies... great place...

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/28/2009 6:56 PM   
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Hi Guys, I just picked-up a TT electric, and have some questions.

* Is the FM1-e the same as the Ducati Electric, they look identical except for the swingarm? I would like to buy a FM1-e body and carbon chassis and not sure this will work.

* Steering, how much left to right steering throw is enough?

*I cant seem to keep this bike upright and running, even in straight line is leans left or right, and seems to have little to no steering even though I have the steering throw as far as it will go left and right. Yes Im learing to drive, but if the bike cant even go in a straight line this will be a challenge. Is this normal? I have checked my bike over an over for something wrong, but everything is in working order.



hi, i also bought a TT ep ducati over here in Singapore on 24/12 and i am having a hard time finding parts in my LHS, is there a website which ship item internationally ? i have been to 2 wheel hobbies but it seems that they do not ship their item out..

i am also learning to drive ,been to lots of website and forum to learn abt it, but mine is still stock version .



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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/29/2009 1:16 AM   
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I wish they sold this in kit form, so I can build it myself. Im not impressed with the quality control or the build from the factory. If anyone gets one of these bikes I strongly reccomend taking the whole thing apart and rebuilding it. Screws are either overtightended or undertightened. OK thats enough ranting about the poor Quality control, bottom line is this is one cool bike, its just needs a little TLC.

I have a question on gearing, what pitch are the pinion and spur gear? and should I look into re-gearing for the Castle 5700kv motor?


About gearing, 2wheelhobbies has the Alleven spur adapter to take different make 48P spur gears. Recommend HPI Carbon fiber spur 96T part # 6996 and Robinson racing 48P pinions, 20T would about equal the stock ratio. With the 5700kv you might want to start a few teeth smaller on the pinion and then work your way up and check motor temps.
Stock gear ratio spur/pinion 69/14 =4.9-1 48P spur/pinion 96/20 = 4.8-1 TT has an optional 16t pinion for the stock setup that makes the bike go faster ratio is 4.3-1
So you could go very,very fast on the 5700kv with a 24T pinion (48P) ratio = 4.0-1

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/29/2009 4:50 PM   
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Hi Dan, I did see Bruce, had the spur gear adapter when I put a order-in, I really wanted to buy it, but like most of the parts I want they are out of stock .


Dan I got two messages inquiring about the red anodized chassis, it seems its well liked over the TT gold? Anyway, It would be cool if someone could just sell the red chassis plates. I like the red chassis too, but see a carbon fiber one in my future, Im a sucker for anything carbon.

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 12/30/2009 1:19 AM   
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Hi Dan, I did see Bruce, had the spur gear adapter when I put a order-in, I really wanted to buy it, but like most of the parts I want they are out of stock .


Dan I got two messages inquiring about the red anodized chassis, it seems its well liked over the TT gold? Anyway, It would be cool if someone could just sell the red chassis plates. I like the red chassis too, but see a carbon fiber one in my future, Im a sucker for anything carbon.



Kyle.. be careful with Carbon fiber.. until you are really confident at driving or racing, you may want to stay away from it.. I have been looking at it as well, but I've seen what a few of the crashes that I've done to the frame and all I had to do was bend it back.. CF would have cracked, snapped or shattered.. Its calling my name as well, but I will wait... 2 years and counting... LOL

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RE: The Ofiicial Thunder Tiger Ducati 999 & Desmosedici - 1/10/2010 4:35 PM   
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My order from Bruce came in, here is my TT now

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