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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro ... - 6/26/2008 4:22:49 AM   
ozvena


 

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Status: offline 		Unger Park Lake is close to me. I own Supervee electric which I take to local lakes. I would be great to meet you! Have you made any progress finding a lake?

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro ... - 7/10/2008 4:40:00 PM   
rageman


 

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Status: offline 		OZVENA, sorry, I have been on a hiatis and have not been working on the Unger Lake option for a while. I saw today a suggestion on a similar thread herein that we clear Ugger Lake shore line ourselves. I would not mind doing the work but this is a StLouis County property and I am sure it would be illegal in some fashion to do so.

I suggest that anyone interested start individually calling the StLouis County Parks Maintenance guy that I identified previously in this thread. The more voices he hears from on this the more likely he will respond with action and clear an area.

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro ... - 7/10/2008 5:04:13 PM   
rageman


 

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Status: offline 		A call from you or any others focusing on the needed improvements to Unger Lake for RC boat use would help I am sure:

KENT THEILING, PARKS OPERATIONS OFFICE SUPERVISOR (MAINTENANCE)
KTHEILING@STLOUISCO.COM
314-615-8230

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ORIGINAL: rageman

OZVENA, sorry, I have been on a hiatis and have not been working on the Unger Lake option for a while. I saw today a suggestion on a similar thread herein that we clear Ugger Lake shore line ourselves. I would not mind doing the work but this is a StLouis County property and I am sure it would be illegal in some fashion to do so.

I suggest that anyone interested start individually calling the StLouis County Parks Maintenance guy that I identified previously in this thread. The more voices he hears from on this the more likely he will respond with action and clear an area.


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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro... - 7/10/2008 10:40:54 PM   
ozvena


 

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Status: offline 		I need to drive there first to see what the issue is. I am assuming there is a problem with access...

From the image here it seems there is access:

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=63088&ie=UTF8&ll=38.554387,-90.442216&spn=0.00362,0.00788&t=h&z=18

Here even pictures from different sources do show some usable access:

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=38.554381&lon=-90.441369&z=18.6&r=0&src=msl

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro... - 7/11/2008 6:23:31 PM   
rageman


 

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Status: offline 		The road access is fine. There is even a parking lot near the lake. It is the shore line and water near the shore that seems to me is the problem in that it is over grown with small to medium trees and brush. This would seem to make it quite difficult to retreive a disabled RC boat with a fishing rod and line, etc. unless it is directly in front of you. The path to the lake from the parking lot also is heavily wooded and could stand some clearing as well. I am interested in your more expert/experienced opinion once you see the lake. Maybe I am being too critical.

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro... - 7/11/2008 9:59:40 PM   
ozvena


 

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Status: offline 		I am not the expert but I wouldn't take my boat on such large lake with no backup boat to push it back to me. So far I have been lucky on small lakes with a fishing line. I do have a backup boat which I do not like to take with me.

Now seeing the issues with gas/nitro boats I am glad I got electric. I do not cause much noise and there are plenty of small lakes that I can do 30-40MPH with it. Now I see why it is so dead in St. Louis area. Sure there is that lake in IL but that is about 30-40 minutes drive for me.

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro... - 7/12/2008 4:48:43 PM   
rageman


 

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Status: offline 		You are not wrong. Untill KENT THEILING, PARKS OPERATIONS OFFICE SUPERVISOR (MAINTENANCE) KTHEILING@STLOUISCO.COM
314-615-8230 hears enough voices often enough requesting that he put Unger Park into a usable condition for RC boating it will not happen.

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro... - 7/12/2008 6:54:34 PM   
ozvena


 

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Status: offline 		The problem with boating in St. Louis area is that there is no internet presence of such activity. It takes quite some skills to find some info and this thread. If there is a presence you get people buying boats and wanted them using it. Now I doubt any boats sell in St. Louis area. With new people you can put some pressure on KENT THEILING.

A great place to start would be http://groups.google.com. We can have a new presence on internet and people using Google for example would find us with ease.

What about http://groups.google.com/group/StLouisRCBoats or even http://groups.google.com/group/MissouriRCBoats ?

< Message edited by ozvena -- 7/12/2008 6:55:21 PM >

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro ... - 7/18/2008 3:18:26 PM   
rageman


 

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Status: offline 		I talked to Kent Theiling again today about Unger Lake. He remembered our previous conversations about improvements to Unger Lake that would be needed to make it usable for RC boating. He asked what would be needed and if there were any other places RC boats can be run. I advised that there are none in the StLouis County area that are legal other than Unger Lake. Rivers are legal but have the problem of the current carryiing away a disabled boat. I noted that the StLouis Thunder Boaters RC boaters club uses a park in Illinois. I described what was needed is a cleared shoreline on one side the length of the lake to allow retreval of disabled boats by fishing line and reel and an access path to this cleared shoreline, optimally from the existing parking lot. Kent indicated that would likely be best accomplished with a Bobcat bulldozer.

Unger Lake has been under water on and off much of the spring. Kent advised that is normal for this lake do to its close proximity to the Meramec river. Unger Lake began life as a pit created by sand harvesting. They have completed repair to the access road which was washed out this spring and removal of a large amount of silt deposited during the flooding. Now they are waiting for it to dry out so that they can get equipment in to mow.

Kent indicated he is willing to consider doing the improvements within his available resources. There has also been a request to adapt the park area for frizbe golf. Kent noted that the frizbe golf people were asked and would not mind the presence of RC boat activity on Unger Lake. So Unger Lake may still become a usable RC boat lake at soem point in time. TBC.

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro ... - 7/18/2008 4:07:07 PM   
ozvena


 

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Status: offline 		Good job Rageman!

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro... - 7/22/2008 8:38:14 PM   
ozvena


 

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Status: offline 		I though that some of the readers would enjoy: http://groups.google.com/group/StLouisRcBoats/

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro... - 7/23/2008 2:54:32 PM   
rageman


 

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Status: offline 		I checked out Unger Lake last night. The park is open and the normaly mowed grass areas have been recently cut. The long period of being inundated by high water levels from the Meramec river has apparently been an advantage in that all the normal shoreline ground brush/weeds/grasses have been drowned and are non existant along the shore line. Unfortunately all trees of various sizes and tall brush remain in abundance along much of the shoreline. The grassy field on the one end of the lake that you see first as you drive in (not mowed) looks very accessable with only a number of partially submerged bushes just off shore to impead RC Boating. This area has immediate possibilities. A gas powered weed wacker could prove useful here. TBC

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro... - 7/26/2008 7:58:01 PM   
LouDog


 

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Status: offline 		Sent an email to Kent for ya

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro... - 7/28/2008 5:49:33 PM   
rageman


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks.

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro ... - 8/13/2008 6:38:48 PM   
rageman


 

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ORIGINAL: rageman

I talked to Kent Theiling again today about Unger Lake. He remembered our previous conversations about improvements to Unger Lake that would be needed to make it usable for RC boating. He asked what would be needed and if there were any other places RC boats can be run. I advised that there are none in the StLouis County area that are legal other than Unger Lake. Rivers are legal but have the problem of the current carryiing away a disabled boat. I noted that the StLouis Thunder Boaters RC boaters club uses a park in Illinois. I described what was needed is a cleared shoreline on one side the length of the lake to allow retreval of disabled boats by fishing line and reel and an access path to this cleared shoreline, optimally from the existing parking lot. Kent indicated that would likely be best accomplished with a Bobcat bulldozer.

Unger Lake has been under water on and off much of the spring. Kent advised that is normal for this lake do to its close proximity to the Meramec river. Unger Lake began life as a pit created by sand harvesting. They have completed repair to the access road which was washed out this spring and removal of a large amount of silt deposited during the flooding. Now they are waiting for it to dry out so that they can get equipment in to mow.

Kent indicated he is willing to consider doing the improvements within his available resources. There has also been a request to adapt the park area for frizbe golf. Kent noted that the frizbe golf people were asked and would not mind the presence of RC boat activity on Unger Lake. So Unger Lake may still become a usable RC boat lake at soem point in time. TBC.


I called Kent Theiling again last week to learn that he has retired. I talked to his boss. She was not aware of the Unger Lake issue and said that it would be discussed with the Director of Parks and someone would get back to me. I received a call this week advising that they would have the site administrator for Unger Park inspect the lake and make a specific recommendation for action. They said that do to Unger lake having been summerged by the flooding this spring that additional drying out of the area would be necessary before heavy equipment (brush hog, etc.) could be brought in to clear any of the shoreline. They said that they would only be clearing a portion of the shoreline. I again described why cleared shore line is necessary, retreval of disabled RC boats by fishing rod, and that clearing 1/2 of the shoreline would be optimal but any would be appreciated. They requested that we be patient.

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RE: Where to Run Nitro Boats in or near StLouis Metro... - 8/14/2008 9:32:55 PM