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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/18/2007 9:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Got my new Osmose, standard kit, looks ok. Could anyone recommend on nitro engine for this one?

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/18/2007 9:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		YS 160DZ or YS 1.70DZ. Other options would be the OS 1.60, but the exhaust might be tricky. Others will chime in with the OS 1.40RX, but I think with the size of this plane you'd be down on power for the upper classes.

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/18/2007 10:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Peter,
any pics of the osmose's kit ?
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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/19/2007 12:48 AM   
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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/19/2007 12:06 PM   
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i talked yesterday with my supplier and he told me that this was how the first Genesis kit was , but only the glass version, the kevlar\carbon fuses where not like this.
He thought maybe it was the temprature down there (CA) that might did some?
glad i order a kevlar fuse


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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/20/2007 8:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Guys,

Here are a few pics of the kit I received, don't see any problems with this one. The production number is: 2021.



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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/20/2007 10:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice pics. That really looks better than mine! What type of kit is it - glas or kevlar/carbone?
Please could you post the weight of:
- fuse, cowl, canopy bottom
- wings

Would be very interresting...

Thanks, Wolfgang

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/20/2007 3:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Wolfgang,

It is the fibreglass kit. Lot of work, but satisfying. Still busy with wings, including a few mistakes!

Weights will take a while, I think Alejandro posted weights towards the begining of this thread - have a look.

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/21/2007 7:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here are some pics of the Osmose kit. Production number 2000. Body is very smooth.

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/21/2007 7:35 PM   
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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/21/2007 9:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hallo,
Please post the weight of:
- fuse, cowl, canopy bottom
- wings

Thanks, Wolfgang

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 10/29/2007 4:07 AM   
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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/1/2007 7:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello guys,

I also have an Osmose ARF on order from Netbox hobby, was kind'a hoping they would be here by now.

Any how,.....was looking for some insight into this bird from you guys that are flying them already. Is the bird that great in reference to it's flight abilities and how would it compare to a Intergal, Brio or the other top level planes in the air.

I am planning on setting mine up on a OS-160,...does this pose any problems? I like the YS,..don't like the un-scheduled maintenance issues associated with them. I may consider the new OS-200 standard engine, but don't have enough info. on the reliabilty of this engine? I am currently flying FAI/F3A. The stab's,...can a mini digital be placed in the stab itself? I am simply fact finding right now!

Is the plane worth the price of $$,...let me know what you guys think about this bird with a non- biased point of view.

Thnx
Bill

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/1/2007 8:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I have two, one of my friends has two Brios and liked the way mine flies, he is a Brio fan, so I take that very positive. The integral is very good airplane too, specially in strong winds.

The Osmose is very precise, but be carefull with the weight, you can exceed the 5Kg limit.

You can use the servos in the stab, Marcelo Colombo uses JR3421 in his with no problems.

If you fly F3A you really need to think seriously about the engine, the OS 160 is a very good motor ( I have it), but in F3A is actually an on/off motor, I mean idle or full power, the mid point really does nothing in most manouvers, it lacks a lot of torque compared to a YS if it is not close to full power, with the YS you can climb unlimited at sea level with two clicks above half throttle, this means you can fly a slower schedulle and have power for the ascending rolling manouvers. With the OS 160 or the 140RX is really difficult to fly a slower schedulle and that is what judges ussually likes, fast it is good two, but the problems is that you will be eating quickly a lot of space in the box giving you less chance to set your position for the next manouver without getting out of the box.

One of my friends flying with the OS160 was barely able to get the manouvers completed in the Colombian F3A Championshios this year due to the field elevation.

Good luck with the airplane, ask if you need any pictures or help with the construction.

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/1/2007 11:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree some what with the OS-160,..I am flying the engine in a Smaradgz. I found by using the standard OS pipe for the OS-140 RX on the OS-160 with the pipe and header pushed tight to one another, that I have a nice mid-range. If I lenghten the pipe more than a 1/4 of an inch the mid-range becomes non-existent and the engines runs very rich and requires a huge turn on the low end. I can fly the this years P and F program at 1/2 throttle with nearly unlimited verticle. The wind howling around 20mph+ changes the style of flight and the throttle must be managed "more so" throughout the entire sequence,..hence the down line suffers in this situation VS a good four stroke. The OS-160 will turn a 20-8 with little problem at sea level making it fly some what like an electric for those calm days.

I would prefer to use a four stroke,..but I have all OS two strokes now, not to say I would change if I could get my hands a nice YS-160 and/or maybe a OS-200?

I have a new Brio in the kit and have flown one, they are very...very nice once set up and built right. I also favor the Black magic V3, but have no time to build!

How does yours handle in the wind in comparison to your past pattern ships? I'm an unlimited IMAC cross-over pilot,..stopped IMAC in 2003 after the Don Lowe Masters,..got frustrated with it all and took a break! This is my second year with pattern flying and just starting to understand the differences between the two (adjustment period).

So,...I'm basically starting over with these planes,..set-up, characteristics, flying style, visual presentation and whats good and whats bad!

Thanks for the reply!

Bill

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/2/2007 1:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Osmose handles very well in the wind, it can jump a little if the wind is extreme, but I like it a lot, it snaps very nice, the only thing is the set up, +1/4 on the wing and the stab at 0, the engine aligned with the spinner and fuselage, I use the canopy base for the 0 reference.

I started at 1cm aft of the tube for the CG but the model tended to pitch up a little on the loop exits upwind, so moved the CG 1,5cm forward of that position and it is perfect now.

On the OS 200, Jason Shullman did not kept flying with it for mechanical problems, in the WC the japanese team had the OS mechanic with them all the time, but they had problems also, I think is best to wait for OS to solve the problem , and they are working on it, and let me tell you, the OS200FI is the smoothes runiing engine I've seen, I was extremely impressed with it. Once the problem is solved I would like to try one, but the YS is so reliable that I will not change it at all, not even electric.

Electric has its advantages, I preffer the YS still, both electric and glow have problems, a lot of bad batteries happens all the time and glow engines quits, so it is really a matter of prefference in my opinion, non of the japanese pilots used electric and they were probably the smoothest all around with YS and OS.

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/2/2007 2:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think OS will ever solve the problem they never have for the 140/160 EFI versions. I was thinking of using the non-FI version of the OS-200?

Well the Osmose sounds like it will do just fine aganist the Intergral, Proline, Genesis, Oxia line of aircraft.

How does the plane fly without the T-cantalizer,...any idea here?

How close are you to the weight limit?

I know talking with Don Szcure, he is using the T-cantalizer on his Brio's and loves it. He said it gives the rudder a softer feel and gains some of the characteristics of a bi-plane.

A flying associate of mine here is flying the new Proline and loves it,...haven't flown it yet.

I'm sure when mine gets here I will have questions for you.

Thanks for the input!

Bill

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/2/2007 7:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Without the T canalizer it is a completly different airplane, you will have to double your rudder input to compensate not having it, many people have been using it in post production airplanes, the thing is, this airplane was designed with the T canalizer, so it flies the way it should with it, you can try flying without it and the feeling by yourself but you will agree rolls way better.

The airplane stall turns better without the canalizer, but adding throw to the rudder for this manouver is hte key, but that is the only thing I could find beeter without it, once I setted the Rudder travel for the stall turn correctly it did it as good as it was without the T.

Maybe that is the reason why people have installed a T on airplanes designed without it and see no difference, I think is a real must, the less corrections we use the better we will fly I guess.

My ARF was 4982 (due to a repair I had to do after a dead stick in the worst side of the field), and my Deluxe is 4784gr.

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/2/2007 7:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I plan on using the T-canalizer,...just wondering how it would affect the aero of the plane and you answered my question.

Gee's it seem's to real difficult getting my hands on a YS-160 and the 170 are not available yet in the US. That is unless you are a "team" guy,..then things seem to come much easier. I've been there and done that,..not with F3A/FAI yet,..lol.

I am just attempting to re-assure myself that this is the right choice of airship for the money,..the other choice is the Intergal?

I sure wish we had a choice in color between the CPLR & BPLR color scheme,..I prefer the BPLR colors hands down!!!

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/2/2007 7:45 PM   
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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/2/2007 7:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Central Hobbies have the YS 170 in stock now, hurry and you might get one.

Yes, the airplane worth every penny, and if you are getting the ARF, yes ,you can choose, and I agree, BPLR colors look better, next time I'll try to get them white and paint them, that is the thing of having some one else colors, not always are the ones we like.

Both airplanes are very good, it is a matter of which one you like the most, I liked the Osmose fuselage for sure.

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/2/2007 8:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey twtaylor,

We still need to schedule time to prepare for the spring season at LC,..hows the Proline's flying?
I will throw an OS-200 sport in what ever it is,.... long before Feb.

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/2/2007 8:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I checked them this morning on-line didn't see a price or availability,...cookies issue with the computer and there web page?

Sweet hope they get here soon!


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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/2/2007 8:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		$689.83 is the price, you should call them I guess, they show the engine in stock. I use the Hattori #822 header by the way.

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RE: CPLR new plane OSMOSE - 12/2/2007 10:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		You should click on the Purchase button to see the price of the engine in the cart. They do have them in stock. I received mine yesterday morning.

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