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    problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 5/15/2007 6:56 AM   
    kenhill76


     

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    From: mcminnville, TN, USA
    Status: offline     		I am new to the forum and to redcat so bear with me
    I bought a tornado BB for my christmas present and have been very happy.
    I recently stripped out my gears and broke my clutch spring (big surprise)
    replaced my clutch shoes with HPI 87028 and bell with a825 13/18
    I also ordered the roller bearing and bushings to go with it
    when I installed it I noticed there was no shoulder inside to keep the bell from sliding off and my pilot shaft appears to be too short
    I have seen several times on this forum that this bell will work with the bushings and bearing but I cannot seem to figure it out.

    I also bought the 06047 u-joint shafts from redcat and they do not fit
    there appears to be another shoulder further in the knuckle that could possibly hold a smaller inner bearing

    If anyone is using these PLEASE help me
    I have been trying to contact redcat but my work schedule does not allow me to call during their bussiness hours and they havn't returned my e-mail
    I love my tornado and I do not want to give up on it or redcat
    thank you in advance

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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 5/15/2007 7:32 AM   
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    Status: offline     		i dont know about that set-up but i found this on the form and i hope it helps you out

    http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5544288/tm.htm

    if not ask ehroof he uses that set-up on one of the many nitros he owns

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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 5/15/2007 7:44 AM   
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    Status: offline     		You need a longer pilot shaft. Yo ucan buy a sleeve at home depot I think it is 3/16thsx1 inch. THen cut it to size.


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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 5/15/2007 7:47 AM   
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    Status: offline     		yep
    I'm having the same problem he was but I actually have the bushings mentioned and a set of bearings that are the same size that i thought would work better
    the problem is the pilot shaft is too short so if you tighten it at all the plastic cage on yhe roller bearings distorts and siezes
    I will probably order the hpi flywheel and pilot shaft rather than use a spacer
    thank you very much for the help - I did a search about 50 times and didn't find that post so that wa a HUGE help

    I would still greatly appreciate any help on the u-joint shafts if anyone can

    thanks again

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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 5/16/2007 7:05 AM   
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    Status: offline     		OK -- I got my clutch bell fixed -- thanks guys
    I still have not been able to get ahold of redcat about the CV shafts so I may just give up on them for now so I can get back out there.
    I was twisting the original dogbones even before the mods and now I have taller gearing, taller tires and more power so I will probably eat them quick.

    Does anyone know a tougher dog bone or a CV shaft that will fit
    hopefully will have this together this weekend and post pics and a list-- quite a few mods -- tripled the price of the car and a month of working on it

    thanks again



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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 5/16/2007 7:41 AM   
    AllAboutFunHobbies



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    Status: offline     		Those CVD axles are for the Volcano series trucks as far as I know that's all they fit at least as far as I KNOW the people that order them are ordering them for Volcanos. I could be wrong though.

    < Message edited by AllAboutFunHobbies -- 5/16/2007 7:56 AM >

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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 5/17/2007 4:50 AM   
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    Status: offline     		that must be it because there is NO way they will fit the tornado
    they were listed in the book and on the website as for the tornado
    that's $40 down the crapper
    thanks though for all your help guys

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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 5/18/2007 12:13 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Glad to hear you got the 13/18 bell to work I have the same set-up and love it. I use bearings instead of bushings they work a lot better, I just stacked the bearings (3 of them) on top of each other. I think you mentioned that you had bearings. Anyway welcome to the forum.


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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 12/23/2008 5:02 AM   
    pushdownandturn


     

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    Status: offline     		Which bearings did you stack, the roller bearings?

    Frank, long time owner, first time modder lol.

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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 12/26/2008 6:09 PM   
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    Status: offline     		If your using that clutch bell, you need the needle bearings that go inside. You also need to make the pilot shaft longer by using a piece of tubing that will fit inside the bearing. ONce you have the tubing you take a long screw that will go through the tubing and into the pilot shaft.

    http://allaboutfunhobbies.com/store/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/488

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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 3/5/2009 9:49 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Hi again, thanks so much for replying. Can I just use the HPI a805 pilot shaft instead of using the tubing? Is there already a link which explains the install? Thanks again!!

    Frank

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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 3/8/2009 6:29 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Do I also need the B070 hpi metal bushings??

    Thanks again,
    Frank

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    RE: problem with a825 13/18 bell on tornado - 3/28/2009 7:16 PM   
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    Status: offline     		I've got most of my parts but something is missing...

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