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RE: Shinden Build - 8/21/2007 1:40:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		What size is the wing tube? Is it or 1.12" or 1-1/8"? Looks like it is is 26.5" long. This one is 4.3oz. Just trying to find one lighter. This ones going on a diet. How about a carbon gear replacement. Any suggestions? The two gear legs total out to 5.3-oz.

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RE: Shinden Build - 10/26/2007 2:24:15 PM   
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RE: Shinden Build - 10/26/2007 2:27:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mike Hester is planning a wood version once his plate isn't as full. That will be interesting.

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RE: Shinden Build - 10/26/2007 3:10:11 PM   
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The F3A Std (I currently use this one . . and a F3A-Curved) weighs in at just over 3 1/4 ox. (95gm).

PS . . they have a "Winged" CF set coming soon (at 4 1/2 oz.) . . Apparently they are hollow moulded and very nice ! !

Cheers, Jeff

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RE: Shinden Build - 10/26/2007 4:53:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now don`t go spreading rumers
I am a better source they will continue to be imported
they still have a few in stock and have more on the way
I will be in crowley this weeken if anybody wants to fly it your welcome to do so
this airplane is 10pounds 5 onces painted
the ones BVM has in stock are as good
Bryan

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RE: Shinden Build - 10/28/2007 3:07:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi, do you know what the recommende CG is?
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RE: Shinden Build - 2/18/2008 7:48:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Friends,

I thought i would bump this thread back to the front. I got to see one of these Shindens fly this past wknd., and was VERY IMPRESSED!! So impressed, i called Patty at BVM first thing this morning to order one! She told me their not in stock right now, and that the next batch is not due in for 6-8 wks. I'm pretty bummed with that news since, by the time they come in and i get one going i will have missed 6-8 contest's...... My decision choices are down to the Shinden (1st choice) and the Integral (2nd choice). I'd like to get going on a plane ASAP so what should i do??. I'm not sure if Integrals are in stock either so this might be a bust anyways for a while.............any thoughts from you guys would be much appreciated.

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RE: Shinden Build - 2/18/2008 8:30:21 PM   
Rune


 

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this store has in stock....but its in norway..maybe high cost transport???
planes is 1850 US$ dont know thta is compare to US prices.....


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RE: Shinden Build - 2/18/2008 9:47:42 PM   
shepga


 

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Netbox Hoby has the genesis in stock for $1420.00 and the CA Model Passport for $1900.

I guess I was one of the lucky ones who got the Shinden when it was on sale for $1000.

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RE: Shinden Build - 2/20/2008 8:15:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Has the quality improved on the Genesis?? I read through the whole build thread and everything else i could find, and found MANY mentions of quality issues, so that has me afraid of it. I talked with Patty at BVM again today, and she said that UNFORTUNATELY............the Shindens won't be in until late May-early June She DID say however, that she has a couple OTOP's in stock, so, i'll probably order one of those............unless you guys think thats a mistake.

I am just coming back to pattern and IMAC after about ten years away while flying jets, so i'm really in need of some feedback and guidance on airframe selection, engine selection, etc., so thanks guys for the feedback so far and please keep it coming

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RE: Shinden Build - 2/20/2008 12:38:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Otop is a decent airplane, good price too. If you can handle the extra coin I'd really look at the Proline.

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RE: Shinden Build - 2/20/2008 1:40:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would buy the Integral from Composite-ARF for the money. Much better model if you intend to fly the latest F3A schedules.

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RE: Shinden Build - 2/20/2008 3:18:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think the Otop would be a good choice. The Astral XX, Proline or Shinden would be a much better choice. I have an Astral XX and have set-up and flown my friends Otop. No comparison even when you consider the price difference. Just my 2 cents worth.

Jayjay

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RE: Shinden Build - 2/20/2008 5:34:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the input guys.

I think i'm back to looking at the Integral again. It was originally my second choice anyway. I got kinda sidetracted when Patty at BVM said she had Otops in stock. I did read everything i could find on the Otop, and from what i gather, the only real complaint about it is, that it does'nt slow very well on down lines. But their does'nt seem to be anything negitive written about the Integral, and it is in my price range. The others that were mentioned in the last post are nice planes but above my price limit

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RE: Shinden Build - 2/20/2008 7:58:10 PM   
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Check out Chief Aircraft. They might have some in stock.

Greg

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RE: Shinden Build - 2/21/2008 12:09:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SKYPILOT

Has the quality improved on the Genesis?? I read through the whole build thread and everything else i could find, and found MANY mentions of quality issues, so that has me afraid of it. I talked with Patty at BVM again today, and she said that UNFORTUNATELY............the Shindens won't be in until late May-early June She DID say however, that she has a couple OTOP's in stock, so, i'll probably order one of those............unless you guys think thats a mistake.

I am just coming back to pattern and IMAC after about ten years away while flying jets, so i'm really in need of some feedback and guidance on airframe selection, engine selection, etc., so thanks guys for the feedback so far and please keep it coming



I've got a unique perspective on the Shinden; I've bought two. One from the first shipment, one from the second. And, I've flown both the wooden prototype as well as the first composite model, owned by the designer. Further, I have third one on the way, and I've never owned two of the same pattern plane before!

I'm not one of the top FAI pilots, but I do know a few, and have seen most of them fly. Seems to me that there's two basic ways people are going with pattern planes right now; first, there's the rodeo rider..... get something that is marginally tameable and hold on for the count of eight. Try not to fall off. The Integral is one of those to my way of thinking. Lots of mixes. More unstable means it can spin and snap better, right? Or not....... On the other hand, you could be riding a well mannered thoroughbred; which is what the Shinden is, with no mixes. Nada. I can tell yo