protectedpilot
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From: Denham Springs, LA, USA
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Has the quality improved on the Genesis?? I read through the whole build thread and everything else i could find, and found MANY mentions of quality issues, so that has me afraid of it. I talked with Patty at BVM again today, and she said that UNFORTUNATELY............the Shindens won't be in until late May-early June  She DID say however, that she has a couple OTOP's in stock, so, i'll probably order one of those............unless you guys think thats a mistake.
I am just coming back to pattern and IMAC after about ten years away while flying jets, so i'm really in need of some feedback and guidance on airframe selection, engine selection, etc., so thanks guys for the feedback so far and please keep it coming 
I've got a unique perspective on the Shinden; I've bought two. One from the first shipment, one from the second. And, I've flown both the wooden prototype as well as the first composite model, owned by the designer. Further, I have third one on the way, and I've never owned two of the same pattern plane before!
I'm not one of the top FAI pilots, but I do know a few, and have seen most of them fly. Seems to me that there's two basic ways people are going with pattern planes right now; first, there's the rodeo rider..... get something that is marginally tameable and hold on for the count of eight. Try not to fall off. The Integral is one of those to my way of thinking. Lots of mixes. More unstable means it can spin and snap better, right? Or not....... On the other hand, you could be riding a well mannered thoroughbred; which is what the Shinden is, with no mixes. Nada. I can tell you which horse would win a race, and it's the one you can control the best. Snaps and spins are judged on precison, not on how violently they are entered. (although the Shinden does these maneuvers well) Models like the Integral (or for that matter, Hebert's Quest) are a bit difficult to stay ahead of. The top 10 pilots can fly almost anything, but everybody else needs something they can stay a split second in front of, control wise. Hebert's Shindin's are set up far too hot for my tastes, but I can still control them. Smoothly. I knew it the first time I saw the prototype fly, which was the maiden flight, flown in drizzling rain and a brisk wind. It was obviously Hebert's best design to date, with no close second. It did a knife edge loop on the first flight! At half the original control throw of the rudder, I might add. The rudder turned out to be much, much more effective than Bryan thought it would be! My main problem is using too much rudder on rolls; a habit built over years that needs to be broken with this model. With this one you just THINK rudder.
Word I'm getting is that BVM gets another shipment in 4~6 weeks. That will give me time to finish painting and test flying the one I'm working on now! Bryan finished his composite kit in four days, but I'm slower. My understanding is that the latest batch is the lightest yet, which should benefit the electrics crowd. I fly YS. And no, neither of mine is for sale.
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