flyncajun
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Joined: 12/25/2006
From: DENHAM SPRINGS , LA, USA
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Hi Morton
you probably have a second batch ,,,good batch
the third batch was even lighter
they can all make weight But the later models have the lightest stabs and wings
the first batch has a fillet issue along with the weight issue
but they have all been repaired.
Bear in mind this is the largest airplane on the market ,
it matches the 1.6 and 1.7 YS very nicely ,,, but I have no knowledge of an electric setup.
Use a Hyde ar. mount for best vibration free setup
add rear mounting screws to the canopy and it will reduce vibration noise
the BVM Hatch latch will not hold up all season ,,, it`s nifty ,, but not practicle for the full season.
Don`t use the supplied ailr horn setup use a stainless steel stud of equal size,
I`ve broken two different aileron horns on two different models.
If using glow power add wedges to the underneath of the gear mounts to throw the gears down and increase clearance for the 18- 19 inch props.
it likes the 18.1-10 apc.
Drill the axle holes in the gear as far down as you can on the legs for more clearance don`t go by the recomented boss they have predrilled .
I also use 3 inch dubro diamond tred tires,, 12 grams each ,,,,,[the gear are now updated on the latest models}
use the alum axles from Central Hobby they are the lightest out there, nothing else compaires { make sure you use green lock tight or they might back out }
Mount the tank under the wing tube releive the servo plate so you can put the tank towards the rear, it should be centered on the c/g
{1/8 forward of the wing tube }this is the most convenient way,, and out of the way
I will try to post some pictures tonight of my setup
HI Dave,
use these settings,
c/g in front of the wing tube , ail. at 18 deg throw (you can slow this down a little if you like )
elevator at 13-15 deg up
low rate rudder.
The rudder will effect the speed and exit of the snap ... but............... "the C/g is the most important
for exit" and overall snap setup
if it`s tail heavy even a little,, the snaps are hard to handle
if it`s hard to hold inverted{porposes up and down ,,, feels nose heavy ,,,,your tail heavy ,,trust me on this}
you should be able to hold a 45 up/down pos with no elevator input ,,, inverted 45 up and down with very very little input ,,,reguardless of expo, a nose weight forward airplane will do this a tail heavy airplane will not ,,
for spins you use the same set up as you do for pos snaps if spins look odd and exits nose high add or add nose wieght or reduce elevator throw end point ,,, if its hard to stop the spin every time ,,, reduce rudder,, or add nose weight
if it loos like the airplane needs differential in upline rolls and the ailerons are pefectly adjusted ,,, your tail heavy!!
use these standards ,, for setup do not waver from them,
These are my recomended setups for the Shinden
do not disregaurd c/g around 28-30 % mac it is the most important on this model because of the large wings and stabs
it will fly with other settings But what I just gave are the best overall settings
if these setting are used you will acheive NO MIX straight up , strait down and the best inverted feel
witch translates into effortless 4 point ,slow rolls and snaps
after this setup you will be able to wow your FAI buddies with one pos snap rolls on a upline and
1/1/4 down pos snaps with no displacement  (although you might have to up your aileron throw a little )
good luck and feel free to ask any questions
Bryan Hebert
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