WILD THING 40
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Joined: 8/8/2007 From: christchurch, NEW ZEALAND Status: offline
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Great thread guy's, has helped me a great deal with sundowner build here's a shot of mine with full bolly pipe & bgx1, just need to install radio.(temp pipe joiner shown) In another plane, this combo on 0% nitro pulled a healthy 8500 static with 18x12 apc. Can someone advise on a suitable 16 inch blade for this application please. John New Zealand
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Joined: 3/2/2006 From: Bloomington,
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Looks good. One comment I'll make is watch the landings. The gear isn't all that robust. One good hard landing and that pipe will get mashed. I've turned mine into a low rider more than once!
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Joined: 8/8/2007 From: christchurch, NEW ZEALAND Status: offline
Do you mean the gear it's self(does it bend up) or the were its mounted to the fuse (break away) ? I see that chief aircraft do a very nice range c/f gear, I get the impression that the H9 gear is a little rigid ? something has to give when you come down hard. The pipe is c/f, so I am hopping that it will take some abuse from a grass runway, I will fit a skid when flying from tar seal, the lowest part is about an inch from the deck, fortunately this is at the rear of the pipe, well away from the main gear area, were most vertical movement occurs.
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Joined: 3/2/2006 From: Bloomington,
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I've bent mine several times. The mounting point is solid but they seem to bend pretty easily. I do pretty well at home on grass but after the adrenaline rush of a heat race I've been known to bounce it on the asphalt pretty hard. Guess I should learn how to land!
Well I just wieghed the sundowner with the saito 220 and it is 12.085 pounds dry. It would have been almost 2 oz lighter but one of my servos was doing weird things so sundowner ended up with 4 servos with metal gears. I used the carbon gear and carbon tube. replaceing these 2 parts saves about 4 oz.
< Message edited by vince.b -- 5/12/2008 5:39:52 PM >
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Joined: 5/2/2007 From: Granbury,
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Man the landing gear on mine is tough. I bent it once but had alot of trouble trying to bend it back. No way i could do it by hand and when in a vise i had to really crank down hard to get it straightened out. Mine got crashed and just last night fired the new one up. I am waiting on a flex pipe from H.H. to finish the plane. Have everything else done. Onboard glow was a trick as I put it on a switch by itself and took me a few little whiles to figure out i had to have a 3 wire switch to operate that way. I just need the muffler and to secure wiring, CG and will be ready for the weekend. Supposed to be a nice weekend here. Around 80 with 8-10mph winds. Just right for it. Lost last one Saito 180, and again will tell folks if using this motor don't use the stock muffler with the 90deg. adapter it will brake on you. I had only 4 flights on mine and Horizon will or has not stood behind there faulty product even though they knew it was faulty fairly quickly. Now an amendment comes with the adapter that reads not to use stock muffler. When I got my first adapter no amendment was in the package so they do know it has broken and some of us has lost there planes because of the product that is required to keep the muffler inside the cowl which is a main selling point of this plane and has been from the beggining. So if you run the 180 you probabaly want to throw the stock muffler to the side ($$$$$) and buy there flex pipe. Or something that will not break anyway. ZOOM ZOOM
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Joined: 5/9/2006 From: Quincy, IL, USA Status: offline
Flew my Sundowner for the first time this past Monday. I was planing on using a G3250 Super tigre but could not get the new motor tuned in so I decided to go with a Saito 180. Flew great although not as fast as I had anticipated. I am using a 17X8 APC prop. The plane comes in fast on landing even though I backed of the throtle way before the begining of the runway. The CFG was right on with the manual.I got to fly her only once since the rear wheel snapped at the base where it is threaded. It must be a weak point because the landing was a smooth one and it was on grass. Wondering if any body has had this break? (Horizon Hobby says the rear wheel is on backorder that leads me to think that some people are having similar problems. I am using the 90 degree adaptor and using some high temp locktite and not tightening the lock nut to hard. Hope it does not break. To be safe I may order the flexible pipe.
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Joined: 5/2/2007 From: Granbury,
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Lou I don't think it is from overtightening rather from vibration and weight. Does the manuel now come with something in it about using the 180 and stock muffler. Mine shows using it. It shows the adapter in one of the pix, but nowhere does it say anything about changing the muffler out. Maybe being as I got one of the first ones out (pre-ordered) they did not know at the time. But since then they have found that it will break. I am sure not everyone of them has broken maybe you will be lucky. If not it will most likely end up a dead stick landing and hopefully your up wind. If you don't change it at least try to support it someway or another. This might save you some grief and $$$ in the end. Good luck supposed to recieve my flex type by tommorrow. Man I have a switch for my onboard and then the plane switch and was tying up the wiring last night. I forgot just how i had them run before and it is a mess looking in there. Now if I don't dumb thumb it in. I waiter about 6mnths. before i would fly it after building it just to try to get more experience. It was just so good looking i could not keep from buying it when they were coming out. I had only been flying about two months then. Now I have a yr and half so i guess now i am experienced enough to fly it the landings is another thing lol. Good luck and maybe think about the flex deal it could save you alot. It costs 44.00 shipping and stuff. Can't wait club is having a fun day, cookout, and i want it to be ready for it's new maiden voyage then. That way if it don't go good I can show off my crashing ability and that my friend i have experience at lol.
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Joined: 8/8/2007 From: christchurch, NEW ZEALAND Status: offline
I maidened my sundowner yesterday (piped os bgx)
4 flights 2 deadsticks 4 greased landings
Awesome looking plane, but after all the hype, I expected it to feel faster, I have a g/p revolver which seems faster ? I was turning a 16x14 apc at 8300 static, this gave the plane unlimited vertical, so will try 16x15 next time.
I am not totally sure which plug to use in this engine ? os #8 is too cold (I do not use nitro) I was using a saito 4 stroke plug and she still was not dead right, this I mistook for a rich setting and got her too lean, hence the deadsticks(I think) I will try os 4 stroke next as I have found these to be a little hotter- any advise on plug selection, would be very well recieved ?
on the last flight, I lost my lovely carbon pipe in mid air !(not found) I landed and did a tach check & got the same rpm ! so will be trying a canister made up from the factory muffler & part of a header next.
I flew from fairly rough grass, hence both wheel pants are cracked. I found the circular air duct at the front of the cowl to be a pain in the arse, at the end of two landings, due to the long grass she tipped up and this poxy hole filled with crap, it has to go!
l found low rates to be lame
The wood inside the cowl cheeks fell off after 1 flight, my only other complaint is the cheap and nasty cad plate screws supplied for engine mounting-yuk and thank you China !
I tried flaperons and did not like the feel of the plane when they were used, reducing their throw enough to improve this rendered them innafective
carvandish I read your post before and it said an 18x14 @8300... If it was right i figured that your sundownder would be one of the fastested unless it was a typo . if you can find them you want to use an enya #3. they are a medium hot. they work very well in 2 strokes and 4 strokes. they are the top of the line plug as far as i am concerned. the coil is nice and thick unlike the flimsy os #8. they are alittle on the pricy side but as long as you fine tune in the engine to what you hear in the air you will keep the plug coil that nice shiny crome look. reason why they work well they help clean up the whole rpm range most 3d heli guys use them because if they start to fail they will keep running at the high rpm. unlike os#8 seem to die @ rpm. enable the engine to burn more fuel most of the time about 1 click sometimes 2 clicks over a cheeper plug. mainly depends on your exhust system and prop. I have a ys 90 size heli engine with a 2 plug head, with 2 enyah #3's, you wanna talk about fuel burn and power this is a little monster. this thing blew a rod on a engine that did not even have 5 gallons on it. we figured it might have been from the low rpm 3d stuff i was doing and it was just to rich and when i went to punch it just stumbled and stoped 2 stroke heli engine timing gets richer the lower the rpm. Just one of those times when i thought I was taking it easy on a fresh engine. sorry to ramble. but like i said if you can find them and learn not to burn them up to take full advantage of the nice thick coil you will see what i mean. Only thing they work ok with say 15% but work even better with 30% . I say this because low nitro is just harder to tune and most of the time you just end up damaging the plug and the engine.
The last week I also bought a Sundowner 90 because I couldn"t help myself.Its a really gorgeus little birdy.I"m planning to put in its nose an Airworld Moki 30ccm gas engine/Rcs 180/My only concern is the prop clearance.The smallest recommended prop the 18x8.Yes,I"d use smallest props with more pitch but the rev.limiter of the engine would cut the ignition at ca.8200rpm.Do you think,it will be enough prop clearance to spin a 18" diameter prop? Will see.
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Joined: 5/9/2006 From: Quincy, IL, USA Status: offline
It is going to be close. I have a Saito 180 with a 17x8 APC and its very close when the rear wheel comes up. I will probably change to a 16x8. Hope that helps.
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