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rc pilot -> electric to glow (6/13/2007 3:28:58 AM)

Im tring to convert my ultra mini stick from electric to glow and was wondering if a 10 size motor would be to much or not enough ect... ???????????? any comments would be helpful



w8ye -> RE: electric to glow (6/13/2007 3:32:07 AM)

Engines in the .061, .07, & .10 sizes should be fine.



on pipe -> RE: electric to glow (6/13/2007 12:58:28 PM)

It's refreshing to see someone going to glow, instead of the other way around... [:)] Ross



Walt and Sage -> RE: electric to glow (6/13/2007 3:04:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: on pipe

It's refreshing to see someone going to glow, instead of the other way around... [:)] Ross



absolutely....[;)]





foresterxt -> RE: electric to glow (6/13/2007 4:15:49 PM)

I've got a Mini Ultra stick with an ASP .12. It flies excellent! I'll probably pick up a mini pulse XT and put a magnum .15 in her.



AMB -> RE: electric to glow (6/14/2007 5:48:15 AM)

Theres tons of well made built up arfs out there just begging for conversion for 1/2A thru 15s martiin



Sport_Pilot -> RE: electric to glow (6/14/2007 6:14:48 PM)

The only problem is that the electric ARFS cost about 1 1/2 times as much as the gas version of the same size, even if they have no supplied motors or other electric gear! What is with that?

I have no problems with people converting to electric. The higher cost keeps me away. I just get angry when other suggest that amost nobody flies glow (not at my field, nor the neighboring field). Or that we should do away with them to save the enviornment.



AMB -> RE: electric to glow (6/14/2007 6:38:45 PM)

The only reason is they can since its the new in thing , My SE5 by great planes is really nice and for the quality I do not think $ 89.95 to bad it has an AP 09 hornet in it (diesel conversion) Hobby people have a few in the 60 to 90 dolllar price ranges Hobby Lobby I think is a little pricy but good stuff, they Have a tiger moth that is $189 it is the same plane as Pacific aeromodels glow that is $219 you havr to look around martin



rc pilot -> RE: electric to glow (6/14/2007 7:00:34 PM)

thanks for all the info eveybody.I dont think Ill ever buy another electric again, some of them are nice and fly nice but I cant stand waiting for batteries to charge. plus the cost of them is outrageuos. thanks again for all the help



AMB -> RE: electric to glow (6/15/2007 2:04:40 AM)

You do not need your car hood open either martin



dashunde -> RE: electric to glow (7/2/2007 3:56:46 AM)

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pilotpete2 -> RE: electric to glow (7/2/2007 2:21:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rc pilot

I cant stand waiting for batteries to charge.

I charge my electrics while I'm flying my glow powered birds[8D].
I'm in total agreement on the cost of larger electrics being excessive. The highest I go is the 200 watt range, and that's for my 2M thermal sailplane.

Dieseldan,
How does the GP S.E.5a fly on diesel? That is one of my E-powered planes, gets a 10 min. flight on 3S 1250 lipo, very nice flying plane.
Pete



dashunde -> RE: electric to glow (7/3/2007 12:40:42 AM)

I agree... sick of these expensive lipos, especially when the planes get into the 500+ watt range.
$80+ batteries, $70 balancers, $100 chargers and $50+ esc's and finally you get to buy the brushless and maybe even a gearbox, which costs the same as a stand-alone-needs-fuel-only glow engine - im out on that.
Although I already have the stuff, I'm not buying any more of it if I dont have to.

I'm getting more and more glow biased everyday.
Messy fuel - fine.
Noisey - good, I like a plane to make noise, there is a certain satisfaction to it.
Extra weight and rx battery - fine, I'm not superthumb 3d guy anyway.
Field box, fuel, glow igniter, starter and battery - fine, its just one extra box to haul - so what.
The bang for the buck leans to glow for me.

Now... if I could just find a few scale'ish classic full-fuse aerobatic planes to fit a .25 glow motor.. :)

Ya know... by the time a guy gets 2 or 3 electrics in the air, he could easily have a nice 50cc up and flying.



AMB -> RE: electric to glow (7/3/2007 1:50:39 AM)

No sense on wasting any more rhetoric on the espense of the larger electrics its been said before the intresting thing is now in some the the Ads for the arfs after going thru the electric requirments some now read also for 15 -25 glow hmmmm martin



AMB -> RE: electric to glow (7/3/2007 1:58:03 AM)

Pilot pete have not have the SE5 conversion airborne yet but when I do will post pix and how it does think it will be a real winner martin
the Ultrafly Yak 54 will get a 21 or 25 in it after a hack job on the brushless mount and a add on firewall and mount martin



dashunde -> RE: electric to glow (7/4/2007 12:35:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: dieseldan

... the intresting thing is now in some the the Ads for the arfs after going thru the electric requirments some now read also for 15 -25 glow hmmmm martin


Where are you seeing this?
Clue me in... time to go shopping :)



rainedave -> RE: electric to glow (7/4/2007 1:13:22 AM)

Thunder Tiger has a new .18 that weighs less than an OS LA .15. It might be just the ticket for some of these electric arfs like the Brio 10:

http://www.acehobby.com/ace/TTR9018.htm



AMB -> RE: electric to glow (7/4/2007 2:16:49 AM)

Davis is foaming at the mouth to make a diesel head for this one martin



dashunde -> RE: electric to glow (7/4/2007 8:09:52 PM)

I can grab a Brio 10 from my lhs for $75... been thinking seriously about going glow with it.
Not too sure how easy it will be though...
Also, that plane has awfully small wings... might be a handful with the extra weight.?



rainedave -> RE: electric to glow (7/4/2007 8:25:00 PM)

dashunde, what engine were you thinking of for the Brio 10? At 41" span and 325 sq." I think the 5.72oz TT .18 would be just about right. Certainly that can't weigh anymore than an Outrunner, ESC and lipo pack.

David



dashunde -> RE: electric to glow (7/5/2007 5:57:16 AM)

Unsure of engine... got a gws .25 laying around... runs great, but at 11oz probably too big & heavy.
kind of eyeing the Thunder Tiger gp18... might work well at 6oz with muffler.

The problem with going glow on any of these Brio-type planes (electrics) is that even though the plane may end up at the same overall weight, the location of the weight will throw off the design... even thought the cg can be made right, it will end up heavy or flying weird, or both.
No matter what you do, if you have 8oz where 3oz is supposed to be it wont fly right unless the glow motor is moved back a lot... it takes the right plane to allow the needed mods... hard to find.



cosmospho -> RE: electric to glow (7/3/2008 12:39:47 PM)

Hi guys, Brio 10 has been tried and tested here at the field with a .25 engine.... Flies great, no problems.... I have also converted a thunder tiger velocity wing to os 10la.... I was looking around the forums for some kind of guidance to figure out what the 10e and 25e means to us in the glow world.... Somehow having learnt to fly on glow, I don't feel like talking about watts and volts and 2 packs or 3 packs or whatever, then the BEC and the amps..... Damn I can just fuel it up and fly....

The whole talk about vibrations being a lot for an electric is crap since 2 stroke engines don't vibrate that much..... I wouldn't use 4 strokes though, they tend to vibrate a lot more....



Trisquire -> RE: electric to glow (7/3/2008 1:43:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sport_Pilot

The only problem is that the electric ARFS cost about 1 1/2 times as much as the gas version of the same size, even if they have no supplied motors or other electric gear! What is with that?



Probably because they're not over-engineered like a lot of glow ARFs. The manufacturers figure that with glow power, you can afford to carry extra baggage around with you.

Tom




Sport_Pilot -> RE: electric to glow (7/3/2008 2:07:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Trisquire


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sport_Pilot

The only problem is that the electric ARFS cost about 1 1/2 times as much as the gas version of the same size, even if they have no supplied motors or other electric gear! What is with that?



Probably because they're not over-engineered like a lot of glow ARFs. The manufacturers figure that with glow power, you can afford to carry extra baggage around with you.

Tom





The extra baggage should cost more not less. Besides there are plenty of light weight glow models. The only thing is that you must have a fuel tight firewall. Also some extra around the nose is required for vibration, but good design making the front stiff helps with vibration also. Also many glow planes are intended for faster speed which means it needs to be stronger. Most park flyers are intended to be flown with minimal power so they are much lighter than electrics intended for speed.



Trisquire -> RE: electric to glow (7/3/2008 2:47:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sport_Pilot

The extra baggage should cost more not less..............



It should but, in my experience, you always pay more for light weight.



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