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crtmmac -> Carb for S-3000 (6/15/2007 3:01:37 PM)

Hi I have a Super Tigre 3000. I have been told that the 2300 runs better with an OS carb (7-G). Is there a better carb for the 3000?

thanks
/colin




Trollmaster -> RE: Carb for S-3000 (6/15/2007 4:20:58 PM)

Thas a 7d. Moki, Jett and ASP also have carbs that will fit




crtmmac -> RE: Carb for S-3000 (6/15/2007 8:44:36 PM)

You are right. 7d. Good catch. Do you know if the 7d works on the S-3000?

Thx
/colin




Ed_Moorman -> RE: Carb for S-3000 (6/15/2007 11:19:55 PM)

Back in the 1990s I ran several ST3000s. Thay had, as I recall, 3 different carbs, maybe more.

Bear in mind, the ST 3000 gets its max hp at 7900 rpm, so propping for greater rpm is a waste. You need a large prop that turns about 7000-7200 on the ground. I typically ran an 18-10.

The original carb was from the ST .61. It has a fairly small intake, but the engine ran well with it. You did need a split sleeve to shim the throat of the 3000 down to the size of the carb's base.

The second carb had a bigger intake, but ran crappy. This is when all of us who ran the engine went to different carbs. The first chioce was the OS 7D. It had a large throat and was easy to adjust. The down side was the price, which was around $40 back then. You still needed the split sleeve to make the carb fit.

We soon discovered a second carb that ran well, one off an ASP 1.08. We used to get them for $26. They, too, needed the sleeve to fit. This carb ran great and I typically used it on several ST3000s and 2500s, keeping my lone OS 7D in reserve. The Magnum 1.08 carb is the same carb.

I had a friend from another city who never could get his 3000 running well. No one in his club could get it to run through a flight. We met at a meet and I pulled my engine, installed his, then installed my ASP 1.08 carb without changing the needles. I flew his engine the rest of the 2-day IMAA meet and 1-flip started 8 times. Never had to touch the needles. I kept telling his to spend the $26 for the carb. I think he fimally bought a G-38 or US 40 gas engine.

The final ST3000 carb I know about was on the 3000K, the last model to come out before the 3250. This had a new carb and a very large throat for more power. It had a larger diameter base so you didn't need the split sleeve. I never owned one, but I saw some that ran OK.

I don't think the split sleeves are still available. The last time I bought one, they were listed as a ST2500 part since the 3000K didn't use one. If I had to run a 3000 now, I would order a Magnum 1.08 carb and use some aluminum tape from Ace Hardware to make up the diameter. I would use hi-temp silicone to seal around it to insure there was no air leak. I guess you could also use multiple brass tubes to shim the base of the carb.




Kweasel -> RE: Carb for S-3000 (6/16/2007 6:51:55 AM)

The latest 2300 carb works well.




Trollmaster -> RE: Carb for S-3000 (6/16/2007 3:29:19 PM)

If you "dare", go check out the "ST 2300 testing and Experimenting thread here somewhere. I recall carb changes coming up in it and you could relate it to yours .

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3836695/mpage_1/key_2300%2Ctesting/tm.htm




L48 -> RE: Carb for S-3000 (6/17/2007 3:25:29 AM)

You can change carbs if you want, but if you go by the Super Tigre 2300 instructions it will run fine with it's own carb. Don't run alot of nitro, I run mine with 0% nitro and it runs the same as it did on 10% nitro and it uses less fuel. You may have to adjust the mid range by turning the spray bar a little.
I broke mine in on 10% because it was all I had then got 0% fuel re-adjusted the needles, had to go in the lean direction. Running a 17/8 prop, seems to be a good match.




tony0707 -> RE: Carb for S-3000 (5/3/2008 4:37:35 AM)

hi i run an OS 1.08 7D carb needle valve is on the carb- ( not at the back plate like some) -fits perfectly into the s/t engine (no sleeve required )so i think- it must be the s/t 3000k that i have- the stock carb ran real good- but i picked up 300 RPMS -with the OS carb. the ASP 75 -91 and 1.08 are all the same carb and will also fit -not requiring a sleeve-. i run the same OS 1.08 carb in my ASP 75- also with very improved performance. at all speeds (personnely i think os carbs are the state of the art carb -they perform better for longer than other brands) i run 15 % omega with the head gasket removed -and the head-lapped with bon ami and oil (use a post card in the cylinder-to check deck clearence will not work on all engines -but most -this is right from CLARENCE LLEE -one of the glo engine master enginneers )-increases the compression and power- nicely- no other issues- but greater performance- old glo hot rod tick- done to all my engines for years- from my 46's to my 1.08 's try it you will like it!!!!!! fuel consumption is reduced at the same time as the piston chamber is slightly reduced- in size -like a milling the head effect. engine sounds crisper and transition is always real good i have the best running engines at my field i am known as the ENGINE GUY there TEST PILOT FOR 22 years HAPPY LANDINGS!!!!!===tony 0707===




MOTORMAN37 -> RE: Carb for S-3000 (5/4/2008 12:36:30 AM)

My 3000 was also the old version, and I ran an OS 7D in it with no adapter needed.[:D]




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