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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator ... - 8/22/2007 3:57:09 PM   
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I finally received my scale flying wires from Aero Scale Products in Switzerland. I had decided some time ago to try these wires. So here is the poop.

Ordering custom flying wires from a company half a world away is not an easy or quick thing to do. Also, considering the cost, you better make sure you get the measurements correct the first time. Let me state right off that these wires are not cheap. You will pay about $35 for each pair of wires. I think I have about $250(including shipping) invested in a complete set of wires for my 1/3 scale Pup. That’s 12 individual wires. The entire process took about 3 weeks from the time I finalized the order to receipt.

Now for the good part. The wires are incredibly good looking and of very high quality. It appears the wires are made by running round stock through some kind of die that shapes the wires. Then the ends are threaded – right hand on one end and left hand on the other. Hans, the owner, is very helpful and easy to work with. We exchanged several emails getting everything just right before committing any money. The wires are very scale looking and come in a number of sizes to match the plane you are working on. One end of the wires has reverse thread, so it’s very easy to adjust them – just give them a turn and tighten the lock nuts.

These wires are very stiff, so I am still working out just how to handle that issue when the plane is not rigged.

So, lastly - How do they compare to the Proctor flatwires I made? It's a matter of what you can afford and just how scale you want to look. I'm very proud of the Proctor flatwires I made and they look and work great. But, they do not compare, quality-wise, to the Aero Scale wires, which are basically the 'real thing'. If cost is a factor and you like 'doing it yourself', the Proctor flatwires are hard to beat. If the ultimate in looks and quality is what you want the Aero Scale wires are hard to beat.

Aero Scale Products website is http://bredavik.se/flyingwire/.



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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator ... - 8/22/2007 8:24:04 PM   
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Pretty stunning looking wires and clevises!

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator ... - 8/22/2007 8:59:07 PM   
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Frank

Great work on the pup. You have given me a couple of idea's on how to finish mine.

Craig

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator ... - 8/22/2007 9:40:21 PM   
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Hey What about mine ?

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator ... - 8/23/2007 2:46:17 PM   
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Well I just sat though and read this whole thread and I have to say i am impressed. I do not visit the Scale forum very often if ever but this has been a great read with alot of great pics. Steve I admire your determination to do it right and you have brought a beautiful aircraft back to life and made it a heck of alot better than it ever was. Not to mention those new wires you got are amzing looking and looks to be worth all the trouble. Keep up the good work and get some more Flying pics and some VIDEO!!

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator ... - 8/23/2007 3:18:27 PM   
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More pics and videos are coming. I have quit flying her while I get her opponent (D.VII ) airworthy, and wait for a new muffler and then to get the old engine rebuilt. I've had several dead sticks in her dozen flights - while they have all come out ok ; I've been playing with fire. No more flying until I get this engine problem worked out.

I still have to install the dummy engine and overwing gun from the plane I'm modeling. Also I'm pretty sure I will be stripping and recovering at some point. I've been practicing on a crashed SE5 I saved. Recovering will be a whole new adventure. So many project parts still to go.

Thanks.

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator ... - 8/26/2007 5:21:06 PM   
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The Fokker's first orientation flights....She's going to be a piece of cake for the Pup unless I find some more performance someplace.

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator ... - 8/26/2007 6:24:51 PM   
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In motorcycling it's called a 'highside'; in flying I think it's an 'Oh sh**' in aviation terms. Anyway, I've seen several pics of the real thing in the same 'attitude'

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator ... - 8/26/2007 6:37:07 PM   
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One last set just for the heck of it.

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator ... - 8/27/2007 6:52:24 AM   
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So which set came first?

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator... - 8/27/2007 3:14:20 PM   
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They are in order. I actually nosed over about three times until I figured out you can't turn a Fokker to hard until she is slowed way down. No damage. She actually flies very well; just way underpowered. Tuning this week.

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator... - 8/27/2007 11:39:18 PM   
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Steve, the DVII sure looks great on the pictures specialy on its main wheels with the tail off the ground. I am glad you got the hang of it without a major mishap, this is one plane I really had no mishaps with other than the first flight I realized I could not climb fast do to lack of power, other than that like you say it is a sweet flyer and makes some nice scale landings. George.

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator... - 8/28/2007 2:38:40 AM   
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Yes, I hate to admit it but I have seen my DVII upside down as well. On my first attempted flight I aborted the takeoff because I did not think I had enough power. Being my first gasser it just did not sound strong enough. She carried so much speed after the abort she went over because I did not hold enough up elevator.
Now she flies great and I have a feel for the power of the G38 I have powering her. That is actually a perfect engine for that plane I believe.

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RE: Restoring a 1/3 Sopwith Pup(Repairing Elevator... - 8/28/2007 8:25:47 PM