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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 11/18/2012 9:24 PM   
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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 11/20/2012 3:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just a short post to show you that I'm now really having some progress with skybolt. It's eight years since my last covering so speed is not great but I'm quite happy with quality. I had some problems with fin leading edge at the curve that starts from fuselage top. How do you call such curve, is it inbound curvature or something? Result is acceptable although I had to make some additional cuts. No close-ups from that part of the plane


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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 11/20/2012 5:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe that is called a single curve. A compound curve has multiple changes in direction, such as what you would encounter and a wing/fuselage fairing.

Depending on the covering any tight radius can be problematic. I find two methods work for me. First is to cover one side and have the excess curl around to even with the opposite face. It is then cut off at the same angle so it does not show up so much. The process is repeated for the other side with the fold overlapping. I use UltraCote for the good contour and shrink qualities and find if you minimize the amount of material when you start the covering over the radius and allow enough time for it to shrink and adhere there are less tendencies for it to wrinkle.

A second method would be to simply cover each side to the start of the curve and then take a narrow strip to follow the edge with a bit of overlap to the side panels. This prevents airflow from peeling the side panels away.

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/5/2013 8:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		After good start with covering there was a six week break because of repairing storm damages and all Christmas and new year tasks to do. It is sometimes hard to have time for a hobby. Anyway I think the plane will be flying next summer. It really need to be ready because I am celebrating my 20th anniversary of modelling and is there any better way than maiden flight of Skybolt
Not too much activity in clubhouse but I will keep sending photos anyway. Here is most recent...


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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/5/2013 12:23 PM   
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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/5/2013 1:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Whoo Boy! You're speaking to the converted there. Good thing the Super Bolt is in good shape.

I was able to finish a Saturn V on a base display stand, (from a flat screen monitor now wall mounted) for one grandson on Christmas Eve and still find time to work on the BAE Hawk. Set aside the A6M6 Zero till I find a motor and the Seawind is again on the back burner.

Along with that the second BAE Hawk arrived this week and I plan to pick up a Polaris Ultra in April. By summer have to build a bungee launcher. Phew!

Here's a pic of the rocket. Taller than my grandson.

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/6/2013 7:06 AM   
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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/6/2013 1:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		dino, just buy 2 and duct tape them together .

Well boys and girls, after 330 + flights the original 'Bolt will soon be gone, (sniff). Got a call yesterday from another friend offering to take it away. The first dibs went to my former student, but he already has too many planes, no room and other commitments. At least it will remain at our field. It's just this member habitually flies "Balls to the Wall" with underpowered or borderline machines. This method with the 'Bolt will eventually rip the wings off.

To be honest, I'm another with too many planes and projects, but I think I will miss the Saito 91 more than that reliable airframe.

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/8/2013 9:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't imagine giving away a plane I have built myself. Only plane I have even tried to sell is my only ARF, GP SuperSportster. It seems that .40 sport plane is quite last season today so I still have that plane.
Back to subject, bottom wing is ready to join fuselage in final assembly line. Can you spot an error?


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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/8/2013 12:41 PM   
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I can't imagine giving away a plane I have built myself. Only plane I have even tried to sell is my only ARF, GP SuperSportster. It seems that .40 sport plane is quite last season today so I still have that plane.
Back to subject, bottom wing is ready to join fuselage in final assembly line. Can you spot an error?



Nice wing D_I_N_O

No obvious error which is why you ask if it can be spotted  looking everywhere.

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/8/2013 1:29 PM   
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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/8/2013 2:31 PM   
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Excellent work reproducing Randy Harris's full scale Super Skybolt 300. You may have already said that was the scheme you were doing but I didn't recognize it until I saw the wings. I had thought of doing that pattern too, but decided for a simpler modified "Beast" color scheme on mine.

How did you do the spiked overlap onto the other panels?

Great construction article on the full size plane can be found here. http://www.steenaero.com/articles_detail.cfm?ArticleID=5

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/9/2013 7:51 AM   
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If you can't see it then there is no error, I will call it my own interpretation of scheme Seriously speaking there is a wrong color at downside between white and red. There should be stripe of yellow instead of blue. Couple of swearwords were in my mind once I noticed it.
Jaybird:
I used the easiest way of making the spikes. I found three ways of doing it and used one where I put white last which is not usually very good idea due to some transparency. This way I did not need to attach different colors together before cutting the pattern. Drawback of this method are narrow white spikes as they might get loose easily. Easy to fix if that happens.



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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/9/2013 12:02 PM   
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Status: online 		Have any of you guys ever heard of a 1/3 scale Steen Super Skybolt? I was just given and all composite 1/3 scale fuselage very nicely done I may add with wheel pants and canopy along with some very old blue line drawings. I can't make out anything on the drawing title block or I would have my answer. The guy that gave it to me is a flying buddy that received it with a great deal of other stuff he bought as a bulk R/C purchase by an old guy that sold his home and everything he had to buy a sailboat, and then he headed out to sail the world... Anyway he has been gone for almost a year and I don't think we will see him again.

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/9/2013 4:27 PM   
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If you can't see it then there is no error, I will call it my own interpretation of scheme Seriously speaking there is a wrong color at downside between white and red. There should be stripe of yellow instead of blue. Couple of swearwords were in my mind once I noticed it.
Jaybird:
I used the easiest way of making the spikes. I found three ways of doing it and used one where I put white last which is not usually very good idea due to some transparency. This way I did not need to attach different colors together before cutting the pattern. Drawback of this method are narrow white spikes as they might get loose easily. Easy to fix if that happens.




D_I_N_O ,

First I notice that I am the only one that replied to your question in post #1635.
I very carefully looked at the two pictures in post #1634 and did not find anything wrong.

It is a beautiful color scheme and no obvious defect in construction and workmanship.
Both top and bottom have a red stripe between the white and the center section.

I do not see any blue stripes on the bottom surface. The top center section is blue and the bottom center section is yellow. That I imagine was your choice to differentiate top from bottom. I do not see anything wrong with that.

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/10/2013 8:46 AM   
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If you can't see it then there is no error, I will call it my own interpretation of scheme Seriously speaking there is a wrong color at downside between white and red. There should be stripe of yellow instead of blue. Couple of swearwords were in my mind once I noticed it.
Jaybird:
I used the easiest way of making the spikes. I found three ways of doing it and used one where I put white last which is not usually very good idea due to some transparency. This way I did not need to attach different colors together before cutting the pattern. Drawback of this method are narrow white spikes as they might get loose easily. Easy to fix if that happens.




D_I_N_O ,

First I notice that I am the only one that replied to your question in post #1635.
I very carefully looked at the two pictures in post #1634 and did not find anything wrong.

It is a beautiful color scheme and no obvious defect in construction and workmanship.
Both top and bottom have a red stripe between the white and the center section.

I do not see any blue stripes on the bottom surface. The top center section is blue and the bottom center section is yellow. That I imagine was your choice to differentiate top from bottom. I do not see anything wrong with that.

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Red stripe between white and blue/yellow is very visible but there is similar opposite color stripe on the other side of white making tip of red spike same color as center section. I have blue on both sides. Yellow is scale color for center section on downside of botton wing. Error can be found only if someone will give a thought for logic of colors. Not too bad and this is sport scale anyway.

sensei:
If I recall it right there is some discussion of that larger skybolt earlier in this thread. How is surface like in your fuselage, does it look like fabric covered metal tube construction? In that size scale look is almost mandatory.



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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/10/2013 11:51 AM   
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If you can't see it then there is no error, I will call it my own interpretation of scheme Seriously speaking there is a wrong color at downside between white and red. There should be stripe of yellow instead of blue. Couple of swearwords were in my mind once I noticed it.
Jaybird:
I used the easiest way of making the spikes. I found three ways of doing it and used one where I put white last which is not usually very good idea due to some transparency. This way I did not need to attach different colors together before cutting the pattern. Drawback of this method are narrow white spikes as they might get loose easily. Easy to fix if that happens.




D_I_N_O ,

First I notice that I am the only one that replied to your question in post #1635.
I very carefully looked at the two pictures in post #1634 and did not find anything wrong.

It is a beautiful color scheme and no obvious defect in construction and workmanship.
Both top and bottom have a red stripe between the white and the center section.

I do not see any blue stripes on the bottom surface. The top center section is blue and the bottom center section is yellow. That I imagine was your choice to differentiate top from bottom. I do not see anything wrong with that.

Zor



Red stripe between white and blue/yellow is very visible but there is similar opposite color stripe on the other side of white making tip of red spike same color as center section. I have blue on both sides. Yellow is scale color for center section on downside of botton wing. Error can be found only if someone will give a thought for logic of colors. Not too bad and this is sport scale anyway.

sensei:
If I recall it right there is some discussion of that larger skybolt earlier in this thread. How is surface like in your fuselage, does it look like fabric covered metal tube construction? In that size scale look is almost mandatory.



I can't really say that it looks like you described, but I will take another look at real close. Thank you for the information, I am going to go through this thread to see what I can find.

Bob

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/10/2013 2:31 PM   
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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/22/2013 11:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Covering is done, finally. Firewall has an automotive paint as fuelproofing. It took two attempts to get right color because color charts were a little bit misleading. Now it feels like plane is almost ready but remaining installation work will take supprisingly long time. At least three months before we have nice weather for flying anyway.



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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/22/2013 4:40 PM   
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Covering is done, finally. Firewall has an automotive paint as fuelproofing. It took two attempts to get right color because color charts were a little bit misleading. Now it feels like plane is almost ready but remaining installation work will take supprisingly long time. At least three months before we have nice weather for flying anyway.



 

D_I_N_O ,

You have a superb looking Skybolt and a most appealing color scheme.

Similarly here as far as flying; the temperature is dropping to minus 18 degrees celcius here tonight and maximum in the minus tens for the next five days.

It seems to me that the calendar is gone out of timing and this should be December instead of January  .

Thanks for the pictures.

Enjoy your flying when the weather cooperates.

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/22/2013 10:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree it's too cold to fly, but that feeling is all relative. When I lived in North Bay last week of January, first week of February it could hit minus 55F!!!!!! Outside preheating the helis at 6 in the morning sure took the shine off flying them a bit. My snowmobile also broke both springs in that kind of weather, which made me take a closer look at all the metal bits in the rotor system.

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/23/2013 6:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nowadays I don't usually fly during winter. It is fun to play in snow but my fingers dislike it very much. As an exception I was planning a trip to field last saturday but it remained in planning state because temperature was chilly -30C/-34F.
I have to correct my statement about getting right shade of blue for my paint. I took the picture of painted firewall when paint was still wet and next day I found it to be too dark. Now I have fourth mixture drying and I am hopeful. I will keep firewall as it is right now because it's hidden inside cowl. I had RAL code for my cover, I used color charts and both failed and now only way to make good enough shade is by trial and error.


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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 1/31/2013 3:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had to check CoG to find correct location for battery. Tail heavy of course but total weight seems to be within acceptable limits. 4,2kg(9lbs 4oz)  and for balance additional 300g(10oz) will be needed. Remaining finishing to do: cockpit,cowl,wheel pants and interplane struts. Good chance to take some pictures.


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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 2/1/2013 12:49 AM   
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Good chance to take some pictures.

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RE: Skybolt hangar and clubhouse - 2/1/2013 1:32 AM   
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Status: online 		Wow! You are the Maestro of MonoKote (or covering of your choosing).

I looked at this color scheme when I was building my Skybolt and wrote it off as CND (Can Not Duplicate). I thought my choice with dual sunbursts was challenging (see attached) but holy smokes, you've topped them all.

You really need to post some notes on how you did the wing covering. Please???

My hat's off to you.

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