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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 12:39:25 AM

LDM

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Let me put my helmit on for this one , I like the kits , do agree the planning and lasor cut quality is first class , read all the post on the new ARF p40 , good and bad , only thing I could see and experience first hand from sitting back and watching was the responce from RCU members to the owner . Either way and regardless of what side you voted for in the fight , it was a fight and that is never good for business . RC modelers are pickey , and before they take out there almighty dollar , they comment , pick on and disect every plane in the same manner . They dont care if they cant build it for less or more , they dont care who did , if they have an opinion they express it . Looking back and trying to advise Mr G to professionally respond to the negative posts (not by me ) I was simply bewilderd at his responce and personally I get paid too much to give my advice out for free when it certainly was not asked for or appreciated .
In this world of microwave , arf, fast twich muscle pumped life we live in , competition will get better and the customer intamicy business model will meet the product excellant business model in the middle , the company that get that program correct first will win the game . KMP is certainly a front runner .

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 2:14:24 AM

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Well, I just got off the phone with Mike and he still had the 190A8 kit I had meant to order for the last few months.

So at least I will get to add that plane to my flying stable.

Those of you builders that have not yet experienced a Skyshark kit are really missing out.

The loss of yet another USA based business due to cheap overseas labor spitting out cookie cutter ARFs is especially troubling.

So now our choices are even more limited when it comes to quality warbird kits to build.

And no, the Top Flite kits are no comparison in my opinion.

Good Luck Mike and Angie.

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 5:23:23 AM

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Sorry if this isn't clear to me, but are only the kits being discontinued and the ARF's still being sold, or is Skyshark entirely going out of business? Just curious...

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 11:06:18 AM

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The loss of yet another USA based business due to cheap overseas labor

Yet, they say there are 11 million illegal workers here...I am assuming working for cheap (cheap foreign labor)...since they claim to take jobs "we" don't want anyway. Which is BS! That's all I'm going to say about that. It is an evident problem.

Build more kits...buy fewer ARFS...buy American when possible. Secure (control) the borders! Enforce the law! Real Americans need to wake the F'k up! Wish I had built a SS kit now.

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 12:33:26 PM

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"jcflysrc":

Political and social comments here in RCUniverse?. You will be soon the target of any Moderator, my friend. I only hope the Moderator is a Real American and not "foreign labor"..........

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Regarding the thread, it is just a sad -and that it is really how I feel- epitome to the previous thread regarding their formidable price increase last year.

My most sincere best wishes for the future bussiness of SkyShark.

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 2:34:10 PM

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I knew I should have bought the stuka when I thought about it. I got the Dauntless just a few weeks ago and have only seen it in pics from the wife.( I'm currently overseas till Feb.08) I can't wait to get back home and see that kit ( and the wife of course). The only trouble is I probably won't build it now since it will be a collectors item one day. Sorry to see them go out of business. jcflysrc.. I'm with you man, you want to run for president???

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 3:36:12 PM

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There were a lot of people here in Europe than stopped buying Skyshark kits after the last big price increase. We have to add to that expensive plane taxes and transport cost. For that amount of money I can buy a full composite model that is more scale and more detailed.

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 9:35:53 PM

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Political and social comments here in RCUniverse?. You will be soon the target of any Moderator, my friend. I only hope the Moderator is a Real American and not "foreign labor"..........

Real Americans...you know who you are. jescardin, "my friend", I too hope the moderators are NOT part of our illegal "foreign" workforce...

Social and political issues affect every endeavor, including the production, and flying of model airplanes.

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 9:50:14 PM

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I just got off the phone with Mike (the owner, for those of you who don't know).

ALL OUT OF KITS!!!!

Too bad, I've built three & I have two more on the shelf, so I know what I'm talking about - I would put SS kits in a scale contest with TF any day!

Mike is a great guy with a quality product, I hate to see it go. I threw my name in the hat to buy the rights to the kits ... who knows, maybe myself or someone else will keep em flying.

It's a sad day for me ...... sooner than later I'm afraid there won't be any warbird "kits" left.

Mike

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 9:54:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: Messerschmitt

I just got off the phone with Mike (the owner, for those of you who don't know).

ALL OUT OF KITS!!!!

Too bad, I've built three & I have two more on the shelf, so I know what I'm talking about - I would put SS kits in a scale contest with TF any day!

Mike is a great guy with a quality product, I hate to see it go. I threw my name in the hat to buy the rights to the kits ... who knows, maybe myself or someone else will keep em flying.

It's a sad day for me ...... sooner than later I'm afraid there won't be any warbird "kits" left.

Mike

Sad but could be true, hold onto your plans guys!!!

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/21/2007 10:32:16 PM

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Several of you mentioned Top Flite. When's the last time they introduced a new warbird KIT? The Sea Fury back in 2001? That was six years ago! The kit business is dying fast, regardless of quality or price.

Like many of you, I've got my plans stash, too. If you want to scare yourself, think about how many new plans designers have joined the game in the last several years. None! The majority that are still out there have slowed WAY down on new releases. Not to mention balsa suppliers are drying up fast.

Scary times. Guess I should start planting balsa trees in the backyard.

- Jay

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/22/2007 4:20:36 AM

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The future of kit building is custom laser cutting.. nothing kept in stock, the cutter has standard plans for a 190 lets say and when you request one it gets cut, packaged and shipped.. all the cheap arfs are laser cut nowadays so the cost/speed of lasers must have come down.

Short kits are fine, with a COMPLETE list of wood and accesories needed, print your manual off the internet and go at it... and offer different sizes of each kit, should not be too hard to scale up and down.

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/22/2007 7:37:17 AM

bigtim

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I would imagine the kits from skyshark are on disk and as the kit market dry's up and demand increases there will probably be a new run of kits to order from these guys.
fact is they priced themselvs out of the market,I have several TF kits they are not bad at all,die crunched I don't think so at least not the ones I have and am building, and at 1/2 the price there fine for me.
being in the service industry it's about pleasing the customer and providing a competitivly priced product which skyshark didn't do.
the only response from the owner was "it's my company and I will run it like I want" in the "wine about skyshark thread" which is what I would call it.
if it's about making money I am not sure why they didn't outsource there kits like they did there ARF's if you think there made in the USA your kidding your self.
on a personal note I wanted to get one of the kits but when they went up almost 100$ I decided to buy something else, I have other expensive things in my life like kids

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/22/2007 12:39:11 PM

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I think you miss the big picture "bigtim" SS never wanted to go mainstream like TF. SS produced high quality kits for discriminating modelers. That's not a big market, since most people are too cheap, or simply don't have the rescources to be "discriminating".

I wonder why you take the time to post, since you have never built a skyshark kit?

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RE: skyshark kits no more - 6/22/2007 1:56:14 PM

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Yes I am sure the illegal alien working in the potatoe fields had something to do with Skyshark going out of the kit making business. It wasnt the cheaper asian kits or outrageous kit prices from SS. Hey jcflysrc im sure the illegal alien will switch jobs with you since you want it so much. It is very simple economics. You already have a small niche in which to sell your kits to. If you overprice a box of cut wood when someone else sells a larger kit for almost half your price you will not be selling too many kits.

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