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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 7/19/2008 4:00:30 PM   
AKondor


 

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Status: offline 		Hi guys: We would love to get pictures of some of the finished aircraft so we can put them on our gallery! send to paul@kmp.ca Also please include the hobby shop name that you purchased it from and your information and we will makesure everybody gets proper recognition.

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 7/19/2008 6:13:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I redid my nosewheel retract steering system eliminating the cables.

I took the factory steering arms out of the nosewheel strut, rethreaded the holes to 6-32 so I could use bolts to replace the arms, used 4-40 ball links, spaced out to the length where the original cable holes were, and drilled out the balls to fit over the 6-32 bolts so when the retract rotataes up the ball link swivels rearward pushing the steering linkage rearward.

I used dual 4-40 rods at each end with the yellow 4-40 flex in the middle back to the servo, remounted the servo at an angle front to rear to match the angle of the rods. On the servo arm I used the heavy-duty 4-40 easy connectors , slightly drilled out for more clearance, with the allen heads removed so the rods can slide forward and backward through the easy connectors when retracting. I ran the rods through the easy connectors and put a 90 degree bend on the end of the rods.

When the nose wheel retracts the rods go rearward through the easy connectors, when the retract goes down the 90 degree bend at the end of the rods goes against the easy connectors for a pull-pull condition.

It keeps the nosewheel fairly straight when retracting and there is nothing to mess up when the servo actuates when the nosewheel is retracted. It works awesome and seems to be extremely foolproof.



Unfortunatly when I put the Moki in it didn't come with a manual. I used the fuel sold to me with the Moki for use in the engine and guess what, too much nitro and not enough oil, the motor blew up in the air. Fortunately it gave me about 10 seconds warning which gave me enough time to position myself for a flawless deadstick landing without issue, thank goodness.


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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 7/19/2008 6:18:31 PM   
molyhotdog


 

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Status: offline 		Also make sure you use some good grease when you put the wheels on. My axles are almost halfway wore out and I've drilled out my nose wheel and put a brass tube in it as a bushing since it was wore way big already. Maybe it will be better now with the right thrust in the motor so the wheel doesn't have to be at a 45 degree angle to the plane when taking off.

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 7/20/2008 6:42:30 PM   
SLONLOW


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the heads up Molyhotdog. Just installed my dual onboard system and front windshield. will install last side window and rebalance today. Hopefully I will not need too much dead weight.

Andrew, IM still waiting for my Air filler Valve and tubing. Called about two weeks ago or week and a half ago and still nothing. Left you my number and spoke to your secretary. I have yet to recieve either a call or the stuff. Can you look into it please. Cant finish my plane without it unless I order one from another supplier.

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 7/23/2008 1:54:56 AM   
SLONLOW


 

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Status: offline 		OK, UPDATE, installed the dual onboard glow system with two sub-C type batteries tied to the engine stand-offs. Installed the wing back on and tried to balance the plane. I had to add an estimated, and I emphasized ESTIMATED weight of 2 1/2 lbs of DEAD weight !!! Once i install the prop and nose cone, I will be more certain of the add on weight. Even at 2lbs that is totally NOT good. I dont have the AUW yet but will post. I highly doubt the twin 160 will be enough. I will suggest the OS 200 Four cycle or the Saito 300 twin for this airplane. Anything else will be marginal with added useless weight in the nose. Again am speaking from my POV only to keep it looking neat and scale. Am still hoping someone adds videos of it with a comparable engine other than a BIG 2 stroke sticking oddly out of the nose, no bad intentions here towards anyone.....

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 7/23/2008 7:45:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		for the price of the ARF that big moki just ruined the looks of the plane specially with the muffler. This ARF might be better suited to a large electric for the weight and to keep the scale look. ASTRO has a 160 sized that would be perfect on 10-12 cells

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 7/23/2008 8:58:57 PM   
molyhotdog


 

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Status: offline 		I know, I spent over $400.00 on a RCV 120 and many hours baffling and routing everything on the engine recommended by KMP only to have to butcher the cowl and redo everything.

I'm pretty new at the hobby so I didn't have multiple engines laying around to see what would fit best so I put something (the Moki 1.8 a friend had lying around) in that I knew would fly the plane.

At least I'm still waiting on the aluminum hardware straps to mount the gear doors.

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 7/24/2008 4:32:45 PM   
airraptor


 

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Status: offline 		sorry I wasnt trying to knock ya down. i just meant to say if buying the plane I wouldnt want to have to put a large engine like that in it just to fly it.

I do know MVVS makes a 1.44 twin two stroke that might get it off the ground and keep the scale cowl. with this engine i would think you could run some small mini pipes and have the exhaust run out the bottom of fus behind wing

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 7/25/2008 11:40:56 PM   
SLONLOW


 

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Status: offline 		I used to own the MVVS 1.44 twin and it would not be enough for this plane. It is also about 1/2 lb lighter than the 160 twin with less power. So the dead weight will still be there in greater amount. Although I would seem to consider as Airraptor stated, this plane would be a perfect candidate for electric. With the battery weight it would almost make perfect sense. Too bad I dont do electrics and the sound would not do it justice. Bummer....Anyone got a 300 twin,,,,,cheap!!!!

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 7/28/2008 6:29:41 PM   
SLONLOW


 

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Status: offline 		UPDATE:. Am stuck, still waiting on the Filler airvalve and air separater valve. Spoke to Paul today and he stated they did not show I ever called or ordered these from them. GO figure, and here I was talking very highly of their secretary whom seemed very nice and took down all my information, then again I spoke to him last week when HE called me to confirm my issue. And my parts are still not shipped. Good grief!! OK, time to put the Bonanza aside and try to finish my cub. Frustration setting in with Bonanza already.

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 8/1/2008 5:26:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		SLONLOW,
We have an OS 160 twin, and was curious which standoffs from EVO you used, the 38mm or the 50mm. I think the OS is longer than the Magnum, although they look alike, except the carb setup. We had to cut a pretty good sized hole to clear the carb in the nose gear "bump". I wish we did't have to punch holes in the cowl to clear unscale like engine heads, but other than electric, I don't know of any other way. Prop clearance with a big electric would be problematic also.
keep up the good work! Keep us posted on your progress!

CC

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 8/1/2008 6:35:25 PM   
SLONLOW


 

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Status: offline 		Yeah I used the 38mm and they were perfect and should put the engine out perfect. BUT before you make any more holes, I strongly recommend you reconsider mounting this engine. YUP, I had to make a 3/8 by 1/4 inch hole to clear the throttle arm movement and barely a dent to clear the choke valve screw. Very identical engines yes, I think the ASP and Magnum are knock offs of the OS. I'm currently looking for a 240 or 270 or 300 twin. THESE are in the 4lb range as opposed to 2lbs on the 160. You will have to add alot of weight even with the RX and dual glow bx upfront with the 160. I already took mine off and am installing it on a 1/5 scale cub. Let me know how yours turns out.

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 8/6/2008 6:52:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Stupid question but, what if the main wing was pushed back 1/2". I don't think the scale appearance would be hurt too bad but it would save the need for a bunch of the lead added to the nose?

I'm was tempted to do it to mine just to see but I've got everything pretty ironed out now.

I also thought about shortening the v-tail tubes if I ever did it again since they only go into the fuse about an inch they maybe don't need to go into the tail so far. They are pretty light but are way at the end of the plane.


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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 8/6/2008 7:06:22 PM   
SLONLOW


 

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Status: offline 		I would agree with your statement Molyhotdog. Moving the wing back 3/4s of an inch actually, would save all the dead weight. The airframe would need to be redone! I dont think KMP will have it redone though. You wouldnt even have to cut the aluminum tubes at all. Im still waiting on getting a 270 or 300 twin. Selling my turbine...bummer.

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 8/7/2008 11:58:34 PM   
molyhotdog


 

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RE: KMP Beechcraft Bonanza's! - 8/8/2008 12:34:36 AM   
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