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CorsairJock -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (10/30/2007 10:31:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tevans55 CorsairJock- ...................I just realized I don't have any info on Bill Fulmer. Do you have a phone number or email address? Thanks,......Tim Bill Fulmer's web-site: http://www.customcutgrafix.com/ quote: ORIGINAL: timothy thompson remeber for a b version the exhaust stacks on the cowl are removed . Only two long stacks on each side of nacelle. Dont put the gun packs on the sides Well, partly correct. My research indicates that B-25Bs were delivered both ways: some had the muliple short stacks, others didn't. The Doolittle Raiders did not have those stacks, and have what appears to me to be speacial, long stacks (one each side) which may have been custom for night raids (which was the original plan). After the raid, the USAAF repainted a number of B-25Bs to duplicate the Raiders for promotional purposes. THESE ones had the short stacks. Totally correct: leave the side guns, as well as the aft fuslage windows, and the tail gunner greenhouse OFF for a B-25B. And move the top turrent aft, behind the wings Jimmy Bananas, GREAT Looking Doolittle Raider! Hope we can meet up sometime next summer and 'bomb Tokyo' together. Had I not found out about the local guy who flew on this mission, I would have chosen Ruptured Duck as my subject. Which pilot busts are you using? I am considering the H9 1/10 scale WW II busts.

Jimmy Bananas -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (10/30/2007 3:24:53 PM)
Corsair Jock: Used H9 1/10 scale scale pilot busts..cut them down to size and painted them...They do look nice....

CorsairJock -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/1/2007 1:35:02 AM)
Main retracts arrived today, along with 1 RoboStrut. Maybe there's something to be said for buying the retract kit made for this plane. First off: those RoboStruts sure are a tight fit (even with paint sanded off) in the RoboStrut ready retracts. I'll have to cut them to proper length then force them in somehow. Second: I ordered the wrong mains. The correct ones would be the 530 series, which are also known as reverse (so called because the cylinder is on the opposite side as the retracted strut). In other words: the cylinders are at the front part of the retracts, NOT the rear. The ones I have can be made to fit using 1 of 2 methods: 1) slight modification to the retract bays, involving removing some plywood. A spruce brace can be added later. 2) reversing the truinions on the retracts, alsth this may be more work than 1) Either way, my advice is get the correct ones: the 530 series. They cost about $7 more a set, but will save building time. Ordered 3 H9 1/10 scale WW II US pilot busts today, MAN are THEY EXPENSIVE! $9.50 EACH. Thats just shy of $30 for 3! Williams Brothers busts are about 1/3 the cost, but they do not make 1/10 scale

LDM -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/1/2007 1:38:55 AM)
CJ , I was watching your online build , where did it go ?

mobyal -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/1/2007 1:40:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CorsairJock Main retracts arrived today, along with 1 RoboStrut. Maybe there's something to be said for buying the retract kit made for this plane. First off: those RoboStruts sure are a tight fit (even with paint sanded off) in the RoboStrut ready retracts. I'll have to cut them to proper length then force them in somehow. Second: I ordered the wrong mains. The correct ones would be the 530 series, which are also known as reverse (so called because the cylinder is on the opposite side as the retracted strut). In other words: the cylinders are at the front part of the retracts, NOT the rear. The ones I have can be made to fit using 1 of 2 methods: 1) slight modification to the retract bays, involving removing some plywood. A spruce brace can be added later. 2) reversing the truinions on the retracts, alsth this may be more work than 1) Either way, my advice is get the correct ones: the 530 series. They cost about $7 more a set, but will save building time. Ordered 3 H9 1/10 scale WW II US pilot busts today, MAN are THEY EXPENSIVE! $9.50 EACH. Thats just shy of $30 for 3! Williams Brothers busts are about 1/3 the cost, but they do not make 1/10 scale Yeah. That's why I ordered to ones made for the plane. Of course they're more expensive, but they're the ones shown in the manual, they'll fit (hopefully! LOL) and the reduced hassle factor's worth the extra cost to me.... Good luck on yours, Jock. Mine's coming in the second run and I'll enjoy watching you guys put yours together. Al.

CorsairJock -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/3/2007 10:21:57 PM)
New cowls arrived yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised to find out the dummy radials are included with the new cowls: I thought thatI would have to purchase them seperately. Thus, the cost of (painted) cowls WITH dummy radials is only $15 each. I ordered them because I sold my Evo 36s, and included the cowls with the engines since they were already cutout for the Evos. I intend to install Saitos in mine, and therefor will have to cutout differnt holes.

CorsairJock -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/3/2007 11:56:13 PM)
Horizon has posted a NEW/ DIFFERENT picture of the retracts. The new picture clearly shows that the cylinders on the mains are ahead of the trunions (not behind, like the 550s that I purchased), which verifies thet the 530 series are the correct ones. The new picture also shows the correct nose gear RoboStrut, but it is shown mounted 180 deg off the correct position (scissors should be on the rear side of the strut, not the front , and strut offset is to the right side).

mobyal -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 12:12:30 AM)
Jock -- I picked up my retracts, engines, some of theservos, extensions etc today. So about all I need now is the airplane! The retracts are over in my shop right now, but if anyone's interested, I'll be glad to take some pics of them and post on here. Al

tevans55 -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 2:08:20 AM)
Hi Jim- I received my graphics yesterday from Bill Fulmer and they look great...thanks for the lead on those. I don't know if your cowls are like mine but only one screw was actually in contact with any wood so I am epoxying wood blocks inside the nacelles. Are you planing to recover your plane or dull the finish? If so what are your plans?

timothy thompson -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 2:15:32 AM)
Jock my father was an USAAF test pilot he flew anything with wings and told me the b-c models had what are called long stacks and the exhaust feathered into one pipe out each side of the cowl. the J model had the short stack and an outlet for each cylinder that is why you see all the blisters on the cowl. Each one for one stack. The J was loud due to the short stacks the B C and MOST D models were a lot quieter. Now the b had a nav window on each side side of the fuse behind the pilot and no waist guns. Field mods were done to strengthen the aircraft around the bomb bay abd if they added side packs the muzzle blast would damage the fuse, so a plate was added. Some c models had the top turret forward, they got rid of the lower turret because it was ran thru an optical sight and very hard to use. The J model didnt have one. My dad flew all Bombers and the corsair, Jug, p-51 His favorite bomber was the 25 and fighter was the 47

tevans55 -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 2:35:51 AM)
I forgot...Century Jet just came out with 1/9 or 1/10 WW II bomber busts with the brimmed hats instead of helmets. The ones they painted for me have oxygen masks with hose and bag attached. They are the best looking bomber pilots I've seen.

mobyal -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 2:44:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tevans55 I forgot...Century Jet just came out with 1/9 or 1/10 WW II bomber busts with the brimmed hats instead of helmets. The ones they painted for me have oxygen masks with hose and bag attached. They are the best looking bomber pilots I've seen. Thanks. Does this thing take just 2 -- pilot and copilot -- or do we need 4 -- pilot, copilot, nose gunner/bombadier and tail gunner? r

CorsairJock -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 3:09:07 AM)
So many questions, I'll start with the cowls: Yes: my origiinal cowls were screwed in BARELY making contact with the nacelles, so I DO plan on adding material (to the nacelles) before mounting the new ones. Crew: I already have a full body 1/10 'pilot' scale whichI plan to use as a bombadier. The 3 H9 1/10scale bust(s) that I purchased will be used for pilot, co-pilot, and top turrent gunner. No tail gunner needed. Tim, my Squadron/Signal booklet indicates that like I stated earlier: the short stacks were on some 'B' models. Regardless: I'll leave them on mine (even tho the Doolittle Raiders obviously did NOT have the short stacks). According to a report by Jimmy Doolittle: the lower (retactable) turrent was removed from the Doolittle Raider aircraft to save weight, since a 2000 lb bombload was desired coupled with a very long range (maximum fuel capacity). As for flat finish: I was alarmed to discover that NONE of the major brands (Top Flite, CoveRite, UltraCote) offer flat paints in olive drab or Dove Gray. That said, I am now using 600grit wet/dry to dull the fininsh on my nacelles and cowls. I plan to re-cover everything else with CoveRite FLAT olive drab and dove gray covering. My graphics from Bill Fulmer arrived with AMAZING SPEED, and I am once more VERY IMPRESSED with his work.

tevans55 -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 3:40:54 AM)
Mobyal- I am going to use pilot and copilot only in mine.

timothy thompson -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 4:02:35 AM)
use krylon flat clear. Go e power no worry about the finish. The squadron book is wrong. I have all the pilot manuals also and looked through them the D model began the short stack production wise. No Doolitle aircraft had one. Also add windows behind the cockpit and the waist positions had small blisters. The large tail plexi had a red and green nav light i have used the krylon over model master enamels with no trouble on gas powered planes I dont know about glow though. I have both the h9 and tf b-25 go to the arf section and look at my pics of my bomb bay, going all out My dad was there and he got really mad when books or tv got details wrong. He died a year and a half ago. My best friend and the reason i am a WW2 historian. He had dinner with Patton Met Dolittle and did you know the Mitchell was the only aircraft to be named for a army aviator. that lower turret was useless and until the sperry ball turrets came along (men inside) optical turrets were bad. They fixed that with the B-29

CorsairJock -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 10:18:55 AM)
OOOPS. Tried to edit grammar in a previuos post, hit the wrong button. I would delete this post if Icould. Sorry.

reincarnate -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 1:18:17 PM)
quote: My dad was there and he got really mad when books or tv got details wrong. He died a year and a half ago. My best friend and the reason i am a WW2 historian. He had dinner with Patton Met Dolittle and did you know the Mitchell was the only aircraft to be named for a army aviator. Your Dad sounds like a guy I would have liked to know. The owner of the corporation I work for flew 25's, and I have plans to invite him to the field on maiden day, making it a regular WWII fly-in. These guys are truly a worth their weight in gold these days. How have any of you decided to actuate your gear door mods?

reincarnate -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 1:51:30 PM)
quote: tevans55 Date 11/3/2007 9:35:51 PM I forgot...Century Jet just came out with 1/9 or 1/10 WW II bomber busts with the brimmed hats instead of helmets. The ones they painted for me have oxygen masks with hose and bag attached. They are the best looking bomber pilots I've seen. I just searched CJ's site and didn't see any of these. Can you provide a link?

timothy thompson -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 2:47:32 PM)
looking at small air cylinders. The doors were set up like the gear in a F4F servos would work but i dont knowabout that

WHMC -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 8:54:31 PM)
Flew the H9 B-25 the other day. What a fine flying machine! E/F 46 outrunners, C/C 60 amp speed controls Y'd to the Spectrum RX. Retracts fit fine however I made the aft wheel well holes on the mains just slightly longer rearward for a little more gap. Balance was on with a 5cell JR 3000 mah nicad in the nose mounted at an angle to fit under the hatch. Great kit and excellent flyer. We test flew a friends today with the same exact set-up ending with the same exact results! Guess we will have to put our names on them to tell them apart. The power combination as quoted in the book is right on. Takes off with 1/2 flap in 20 feet, instant acceleration. Land with full flap and a little power and your done. Scale speed at slightly over 1/2 throttle and frisky for rolls and loops at full throttle. 10 min flights with good batt reserve. Go for it. WHMC

CorsairJock -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 10:10:23 PM)
Anybody weigh their's yet (all up/ ready to fly minus fuel). And videos: anybody got some to share?

bladerunner1955 -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 10:16:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WHMC Flew the H9 B-25 the other day. What a fine flying machine! E/F 46 outrunners, C/C 60 amp speed controls Y'd to the Spectrum RX. Retracts fit fine however I made the aft wheel well holes on the mains just slightly longer rearward for a little more gap. Balance was on with a 5cell JR 3000 mah nicad in the nose mounted at an angle to fit under the hatch. Great kit and excellent flyer. We test flew a friends today with the same exact set-up ending with the same exact results! Guess we will have to put our names on them to tell them apart. The power combination as quoted in the book is right on. Takes off with 1/2 flap in 20 feet, instant acceleration. Land with full flap and a little power and your done. Scale speed at slightly over 1/2 throttle and frisky for rolls and loops at full throttle. 10 min flights with good batt reserve. Go for it. WHMC WHMC, Sounds great, I have been flying the VQ P-38 but it is not going to be around much longer. I wont get into that right now but when I am done with it(soon Iam sure) I will want to get the Hanger 9 B-25 for sure. Here is the question,,,in the VQ P-38 I have two AXI 4130/16 swinging 14/10 props and each motor has a 6 cell lipoly set up in each engine pod. What do ya think about this same set up for the B-25? It is over powered but I have all of the ESC,lipolys, and motors to stick into the B-25. Do you think the B-25 has enough wing area to fly these motors and lipolys? Here is a picture after the first landing of the P-38, the P-38 is all ready to fly again this coming weekend, oh and this was a good landing too.

bladerunner1955 -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/4/2007 10:20:11 PM)
For all you farmers out there here is a California plow. I think this B-25 is going to be the answer for me.

tevans55 -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/5/2007 2:57:20 AM)
I looked at the CJ site also and these bomber pilots are so new they are not even listed. I believe they just came out in the last several weeks. They look great. I would suggest you call charles @ 502-266-9234 and see if he can email you a photo. I beleive my retracts will be ready this week and my pilots were sitting on his desk last week. When I get the retracts and pilots I will try to post some pictures here...hopefully this week!

tevans55 -> RE: New Hangar 9 B-25 (11/5/2007 3:02:10 AM)
Timothy- If I spray krylon flat clear on Ultracote can I still iron out wrinkles when they develop...how does that work?

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