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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/4/2007 12:06:38 PM   
BOLTMAN



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I don't claim to be an FW 190 expert, but from this angle I like it.

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/4/2007 4:16:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did click on it, and it just wouldn't enlarge. I thought others might have had the same problem, and offered up the other thread. I wonder why they won't post a picture from the front.

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/4/2007 4:24:49 PM   
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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/4/2007 10:47:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I got this picture from Paul at KMP yesterday. What a nice guy!. I haven't done business with KMP before, But I'm going to. The first batch is getting put in a container for the slow boat across the pond soon. They are accepting pre-orders.

Note: Cannon and weathering anrn't included.

I'm too excited to sleep.



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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/5/2007 4:22:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wonder which one will be put on the market. The one with the cheesy tail wheel (Richard L.'s photo). Or the more realistic one (DaBear's Photo).

BTW, how do these composite wings hold up? Do they crack or shatter in cold weather? Do they become too pliable in hot weather. How do they repair? I'm used to repairing covered wings/tail surfaces. I have the KMP Spitfire (Solartex covered Wing), and love it's flight characteristics.

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/5/2007 4:52:13 PM   
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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/5/2007 6:51:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I doubt the picture was recieved from 'Mark' at KMP, because to my knowledge there isn't one.

However, that is the production version image. The weathering was added, and won't come with it, same with the cannon barrels and the pilot.

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/20/2007 5:32:22 AM   
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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/20/2007 5:49:19 AM   
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Love the blind support for an iffy product...

We will never get the suppliers builders to do what needs to be done if you guys just take it like they give it to you...

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/20/2007 9:49:17 PM   
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they need objective, constructive critisizum of thier product. I personally would perfer to give them the benifit of the dought, and not make my judgements off one pic. rather from the actual kit. In the old days that ment waiting for it at the local hobby shop where I could go over it before pulling out any cash. These days I'm eager to hear about any way to see the kit without spending $$$$$.

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/21/2007 7:55:39 AM   
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1.) Tail fuse blend is just wrong. Way too skinny as it moves up into the tail.
2.) Nose too long
3.) Gun hood is the wrong shape, and where it blends into the canopy is too high.
4.) Canopy, at the front, is too steep, and too large.
5.) Canopy overall is too tall and not round enough (with this version, the canopy is the older type)
6.) Opening for the cowl far too small
7.) Gear is at the wrong angle
8.) Wrong type of outter wing cannons
9.) Exhaust and cooling louvers in wrong location
10.) Supercharger "bump" on cowl too high on cowl (but it is close to the right shape, much better than the Airworld kit is)
11.) Wing dihedral wrong
12.) Wrong font for the yellow 11
13.) Wrong shape belly tank
14.) Iron cross on fuse is not proportioned the right way.


Almost all of these would have been caught had KMP talked to someone with at least a little bit of real knowledge about the FW 190.

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/21/2007 8:47:29 AM   
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Just saw the picture of the new prototype.....did anyone notice the 'Tail wheel"?..looks a alot better than the piece of wire they showed at first...still a nice looking FW-190....

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/21/2007 10:49:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		sorry, but if i personally wanted something this scale, i would buy plans, and build the thing, just my view, which i am entilted too


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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/21/2007 12:10:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		And its my opinion that if one is spending $650.00 on any plane, it better be more scale than this thing is.

How many times does it need to be said, the effort needed to make the KMP FW 190 a lot more scale BEFORE they started shipping them (which they have if people are expecting to start shipping out in August) was very little work.


If you want to buy something that looks like that, go ahead, but there are probably more people disappointed that KMP didn't do a better job in the design before wasting all that money on the molds. It would have taken JUST as much effort to do it the right way as it did to do it the wrong way.

I really don't understand people so willing to accept something that is just simply wrong.

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/21/2007 3:29:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		this is a hobby,i like KMP they do a good job on there planes,if you want a true scale plane get a real one,and stop complaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/21/2007 4:08:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Us whiners/complainers really made a difference in the world. Several years ago, we complained about gas guzzling SUV's. Now there are hybrid SUV's that get over 30 mpg. We complained about the Robart retract air pump having the tendency to leak, and guess what, Robart redesigned their hand pump. We complained about the Hangar 9 Mustang/Corsair having a weak firewall, and Hangar 9 added extra reinforcement to the firewall of later Corsairs and Mustangs. All the smart companies that listened and cared took the necessary steps to correct their mistakes. Those companies get a big nod and a nice pat in the back.

The passive individuals who just sit and accept mediocre things the way they are accomplish squat!!!

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RE: YT/KMP FW-190A - 7/21/2007 4:43:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Evil_Merlin

And its my opinion that if one is spending $650.00 on any plane, it better be more scale than this thing is.




Hrmm have you noticed that that $650 gets you a nice set of