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RE: Deciding to become a pilot? - 7/24/2007 6:32:31 PM   
Tripower455



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Not at all, in fact my hobby got more involved since learning to fly, be carefull that you don't let other peoples opinions stop you from leaning to fly airplanes either for fun or a living. If you want to become a pilot, don't give up on your hobby, it will be an important part of yor education in aviation. I have flown airplanes for 20 years and I have built models for more and I did not care what anyone told me about either learing to fly or build model airplanes. The industry will be there for you when you are ready to step into a job. I have never been without a flying job and have always been able to find one flying something and make a living at it.


Stick to your dream of aviation if that is really what you are dreaming of.

Bruce Feaver
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Just make sure you are willing to trade stability to pursue your dream.........

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RE: Deciding to become a pilot? - 7/24/2007 8:19:50 PM   
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Tripower455 has added that trading stability is important to your dream and in many respects I agree with him, but what I have learned is that in aviation you never push the limits of career goal past the point where you are out of comfort, in the lifestyle you live at each point in your career track and the experience requirement that the job entails. If you balance the jobs you take with the experience you have you will learn, grow and prosper,. if you push through stages of flying experience growth too fast you find yourself in areas that may not sustain you mentally and economically. In the middle of my flying carrer I got a job flying in North Central Ontario Canada with a small airline servicing the communities in remote locations. I flew 70,000 statute miles in that area spanned over a period of 9 months I racked up plenty of hours at the expense of my sanity, safety and health. I came away with a clinical case of Depression and a solid case of Pneumonia which kept me from passing a IFR check ride. It took me the next 7 months to recuperate and at times I was not sure I wanted to fly again, in nine months I earned $14,000 in income and built 900 hours at that particular job. The break did not last and I started over and never made the mistake of trading mental and economic stability for twin time experience. I eventually balanced the pace of career with reasonable income against flying hour accumulation and I have always been in harmony with my flying career. I stayed single till I was 34 and my career was well in hand, then I found the One that stabilized my home life around aviation. This takes work too as many well know, but that is a different topic.

You will have to decide the level of stability that is right for you and respect your choices but if you want aviation don't quit.

Thanks Tripower455 for a good point of reference.


Bruce Feaver




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RE: Deciding to become a pilot? - 7/24/2007 8:51:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sundance120


Tripower455 has added that trading stability is important to your dream and in many respects I agree with him, but what I have learned is that in aviation you never push the limits of career goal past the point where you are out of comfort, in the lifestyle you live at each point in your career track and the experience requirement that the job entails. If you balance the jobs you take with the experience you have you will learn, grow and prosper,. if you push through stages of flying experience growth too fast you find yourself in areas that may not sustain you mentally and economically. In the middle of my flying carrer I got a job flying in North Central Ontario Canada with a small airline servicing the communities in remote locations. I flew 70,000 statute miles in that area spanned over a period of 9 months I racked up plenty of hours at the expense of my sanity, safety and health. I came away with a clinical case of Depression and a solid case of Pneumonia which kept me from passing a IFR check ride. It took me the next 7 months to recuperate and at times I was not sure I wanted to fly again, in nine months I earned $14,000 in income and built 900 hours at that particular job. The break did not last and I started over and never made the mistake of trading mental and economic stability for twin time experience. I eventually balanced the pace of career with reasonable income against flying hour accumulation and I have always been in harmony with my flying career. I stayed single till I was 34 and my career was well in hand, then I found the One that stabilized my home life around aviation. This takes work too as many well know, but that is a different topic.

You will have to decide the level of stability that is right for you and respect your choices but if you want aviation don't quit.

Thanks Tripower455 for a good point of reference.


Bruce Feaver







Good post..... My dad was a pilot for Pan Am so I had a fair idea of what I was in for.

I was a commuter scumbag for the first half (10 years) of my career and I can thank my wife for being supportive during the numerous moves, downgrades, commuting, 19 days of reserve a month in a crash pad 900 miles from home with small children, furloughs, new jobs, LOW salaries and NO job security.

It was all worth it, since I was a underworked, overpaid and well respected professional............ Oh, and it got me my current job!

It still beats working for a living (most of the time), but this career is definitely not for the weak of heart.......

I just spent a 4 day with a brand new hire Air Force single seat guy. I guess since I skipped the CFI thing early in my career, I get to do it now....... How these guys survive 1500 hours or so flying by themselves is beyond me. He could recite the FOM, chapter and verse..... That'd be great if we actually flew books!

At least we didn't hire some "untrained" commuter guy instead!

During their millions of dollars of training, I guess these guys aren't taught advanced stuff stuff like: When you level off in a descent with the throttles closed, the airplane will eventually stall; talking on the radio; LISTENING to the radio, and actually doing something that ATC directs you to do without being told again by the CAPT.; putting the initial altitude and squawk in the proper box when getting the clearance ETC ETC ETC..... I amazed him by doing a visual approach without any navaids and only had to actually take the airplane away from him once!

And 90% of them are like this. They eventually figure it out, but it kills me that I can name 20 guys right off the top of my head that would LOVE to have this job and could show up, do the training, and assimilate on the line seamlessly.

It was a looooooong 4 day......

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RE: Deciding to become a pilot? - 12/29/2007 1:21:22 AM   
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To all the commerical pilots out there:
What is it like trying to have a family and be a pilot at the same time? Can it work out?

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RE: Deciding to become a pilot? - 12/29/2007 3:19:56 AM   
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Well Tripower,
Congratulations on being God's gift to aviation. It's a minor miracle, I suppose, that the military does as well as it does with the pilots who do not possess your gifts. Imagine how good they could be with your coaching...

My suggestion, not that anyone asked, is that you play in your own sandbox and let the military pilots play in theirs. I'm sure you amazed him... I'm not sure you understand why.
John

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RE: Deciding to become a pilot? - 12/29/2007 10:05:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Steve108

To all the commerical pilots out there:
What is it like trying to have a family and be a pilot at the same time? Can it work out?


I guess that depends on the person you marry.

Was a civilian pilot, taught Army Primary, entered the Army Air Force as a Service Pilot in WWII. assigned to the CBI, flew the Hump and got the Distinguished Flying Cross. Flew as Captain for an airline overseas, then flew as Captain for an airline stateside.
Got married in the middle of my Captain flying career. Had all the women I wanted before getting married, and started a family after marrying. Wife was fine with airplanes initially, but soon found that time together was more important that flying, even tho I was flying only 4 days a week and home every night. Quit flying, paid for my remaining college years, and became a professional aerospace engineer for the next 25 years. I love her very much and I missed flying very much; but I've been in model airplanes before flying full scale, and thank heavens, I'm still flying RC!
During my flying career, I've seen a lot of divorces and family break-ups; but I've also seen some happy families too.

feihu

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RE: Deciding to become a pilot? - 12/29/2007 10:20:37 PM   
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When one gets married his responsibility shifts from him to her and then to them. Hobbies, flying careers are secondary to having a happy wife and children who have the necessities and that means two parents to bring them up. Flying can cosume many people and their family is usually the loser. I have had to shift gears several times during my long marriage (celebrated 60 years in Oct) and concentrate on earning a living and supporting our children. Selfish pilots neglet their family and divorce is the usual results. Flying careers along with police careers are family busters. Norm

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