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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 3/30/2003 10:33:15 PM   
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If using my delta i'd be on full idle which is a good speed to be flying at ( what i use for low low passes ) the switch would be fully internal and unknockable off. I'd pass about head height the other side of the patch, 20 feet or so almost parallel to the shooters but aiming slightly outwards.
The controller would state when to fire as well as flags the plan passes.
like i said before, these balls don't do more than bruises to us, so my plane can survive any hit without any flight deviation.
I believe this may be safer than people think..
It would become unsafe is some psychopath had more fun than most and then decided to do it with his mates trainer later.
What about a RC car or boat version for those clubs

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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 3/31/2003 3:27:32 AM   
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I used to fly combat. Shooting a paintball gun at your plane is safer than a lot of combat meets I have been to. There were a few guys that would spend the first 3 rounds running into as many planes as possible to get competition out. They would break out a new plane for every flight and destroy it and another every flight. Then they would go for points in the last few rounds. I learned that flying low and fast, they would go for my plane but with the right pull, they would tuck into the ground. I took second. I had only one plane there. They went through 6.

You can't tell me that kind of stuff is safe. I eventually quit because I don't want to take 5 or 6 planes to a contest to destroy due to the way they wanted to run the event. I flew a few and it was the same few guys that did that every time. I guess if I were the CD it would be run a little different.

Was a lot of fun though when it was done right.

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paint ball - 4/3/2003 10:31:55 PM   
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We too thought it would be cool. only rule was if you hit my plane you had to clean it up. I was flying a joss stick (foam sheeted wing and foam sheeted tail. First paint ball hit the tail, second one hit the wing. When I landed the paint ball went right thru both the wing and tail and came out the top. Needless to say I havent done it since. Better rethink that idea.

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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 4/3/2003 10:54:13 PM   
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Just to let you know, 3Dpilot is probably right. Paintballs are often traveling at well over 200 MPH when they come out. Even slowing drastically once out of the barrel, have you ever seen what they do to someone when they hit? I am talking some major bruising, hell they hurt! I will put a 70/30 bet on the fact that if a plane is actually hit it is going down, especially if hit in the radio area or constructed of balsa. I cannot get away without damage when I drop an airplane accidentally much less when a ball moving at around 200 MPH hits it. I am sure the aircraft would be a difficult target, but play at your own risk.

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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 4/3/2003 11:23:11 PM   
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I have been playing paintball for about 7 years and can tell you depending on the type of plane your shoooting, it can rip apart some balsa if hit right or right through the covering. The NPPL does not endorse any type of discharging of a paintball gun unless on an approved field. Such as the AMA doesnt like you flying on "unauthorized" fields etc. Same goes for paintball guns. Contrary to popular belief they are not toys as our planes are not either. Sorry to sound like a sermon but I wouldnt endorse it. Worse case scenario like some people have stated here is your shoot a plane out the sky and who knows where it will land.


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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 4/4/2003 11:40:10 PM   
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I recently got out of paintball, but I played for several years. Anyway, I would say this is a very dangerous idea. A paintball can and will take off a piece of an airplane making it impossible to control. I have no doubt it could disable an airleron, rudder, elevator with one shot. I've seen paintballs do some crazy damage at rated FPS settings.

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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 4/5/2003 2:02:34 AM   
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I'm going to put my two cents in again...

In respects to combat flight, think of it this way. An object in motion tends to stay in motion, blah blah... So in other words, once a plane is hit by another plane, most time it just doesn't fly and falls to the ground in a heap..

Now, lets take an example...

Paintball nails the throtle link and breaks it off.. Plane left flying wide open, and possibly out of control. What we have here is a high speed bullet flying anywhere it wants..

Plane hits another planes throtle link and breaks it off... Not much problem there as while it's doing so, it rips the front end off, and snaps a wing in half.. Plane does tight spin straight down, or close to it, and they both dig themselves into the ground..


Anyway, don't care for combat much myself.. I can't see putting the time and money into something just to have it end up smashed.. Guess I'm a little on the old timer views of flying.. But at any rate, my point is a plane hit by another plane, 99.9% of the time, will fall quickly.. Thus the rules and guidelines for standard flight areas, to prevent the planes from hurting people... Now, in respects to a paint ball, it is possible for it to disable the plane enough for it to end up flying a mile away by itself, and plowing prop first into a group of school kids playing outside..

haha.. Ok, bit extreme.. But you get my point none the less..

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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 4/5/2003 2:10:18 AM   
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Wolf, hate to disagree, but I have seen many mid airs in combat. they never fall to the ground straight. They go all over. I have seen switches turned off and the plane flying freeflight for a while till it hits, stabs cut off and the plane heading for the pits, and a lot of others. I had one guy hit me from behind and low. the engine and fuel tank separated together and flew a long way like a missle before it hit. Luckily it was going away from the pits at the time.

I would say the dangers are no different. Both can be safe, both can be dangerouse. Just depends on how it is hit and where it is pointing when it is hit.

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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 4/5/2003 2:11:50 AM   
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On my delta the drain pipe came right up to the engine and the muffler so the throttle was un-hitable by any plane attacking me, the link was also a Z bend. if doing passes from right to left the throttles on the wrong side anyway. on this plane we're tlaking drain pipe and 4mm correx. thats tough stuff, i have a crash video on my site, i replaced the prop and went flying, i aint scared of no paintball
ooh, heres another way... fill a super soaker with water based paint and squirt it as it gos past. at the worse you flood the engine
just a thought,,, dont throttles close when the link is broken thanks to the spring, a extra spring attached to the mounting screws will double up on that.

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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 4/5/2003 9:59:39 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by FLYBOY
Wolf, hate to disagree, but I have seen many mid airs in combat. they never fall to the ground straight. They go all over. I have seen switches turned off and the plane flying freeflight for a while till it hits, stabs cut off and the plane heading for the pits, and a lot of others. I had one guy hit me from behind and low. the engine and fuel tank separated together and flew a long way like a missle before it hit. Luckily it was going away from the pits at the time. [/QUOTE]

Well, I stand corrected...

Like I said, not much into combat so I've never paid that much attention to it... At any rate, this leans things to why is one allowed and the other not... But in the same, in my mind it brings the thought, why is combat even allowed? I wonder how many claims have been filed from damage at a combat event?

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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 4/7/2003 3:09:09 AM   
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Claims? Nonsense. Any respecable combat participant would never make a claim, it's part of the game!

Just for fun, I just shot my PBF at close rage (i.e. point blank) and didn't even dent the coro. I'll bring the gun out next weekend and have a go at it with our PBF flight team. I'll let you know.


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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 4/11/2003 12:54:54 AM   
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do not use paint ball gun-use a 12 gauge with full choke- and the person that hits the plane does not have to worry about wounding it and becoming out of control and hurting someone-also the person making the donation will have no doubt when he has been hit-we could call this r/c skeet and trap

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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 4/26/2003 4:22:25 AM   
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I am a fellow paintballer and own a pretty nice paintball MARKER *cough* $500 *cough*. I realy don't understand what you guys are trying to say. But if i were to see that at a field i would be VERY VERY VERY mad. Paintball markers aren't desgined for that. They are designed for the use of the sport (game) called paintball. I get so ticked off whe i hear about some puck kids marking houses and cars. I ruins the name for paintball. And anyone that uses a marker. To mark houses,trees,planes and espicially innocent bystanders should have their markers taken away and put in jail or have a hefty fine. Then either sell the markers or donate them in a raffel or sometin.


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I agree with stalspin - 5/5/2003 11:32:11 AM   
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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 5/5/2003 5:02:48 PM   
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Well, we had 3 hits on PBFs, but none that even took the plane down. Truth be told, pretty boring. You've got to hold it pretty still to even get close, might not be a big deal for a bigger plane. We weren't very impressed and probably won't bother again.


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Paintballs shot at airplanes - 5/8/2003 7:59:33 PM   
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