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RE: OS 200 - 7/6/2007 9:42:32 PM

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Anymore inputs regarding the OS 200S vs FI? Estimated retail for the FI?

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RE: OS 200 - 7/6/2007 11:12:47 PM

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Now at this bargain price I'll bet you can't wait to order

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A lousy $907.50 per cubic inch--------by all means get two.

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RE: OS 200 - 7/6/2007 11:51:55 PM

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onewasp, you've got to realize that there are lots of people that have so much money that spending $1800 is like you or me spending $18.00. They think nothing of it. To make sense of todays prices, I mentally move the decimal over one place. Most things are about 10 times more expensive than when I was young. It seems one of the few things that is not 10X is wages.

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RE: OS 200 - 7/7/2007 2:53:47 AM

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Well I won't say I am rich but I try to use common sense in how I spend it. I was expecting to see a decent premium for the FI but $1,800 for a 2.00 4s? Yikes....not in this house. I could burn quite a few cases of 30% heli fuel through a new YS 1.60 or maybe one of the new 1.70's before I equal that investment. I will wait to see the review of the non-fi version before I make a decision. I am still leaning towards the Saito 2.20 for my next project for now.

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RE: OS 200 - 7/7/2007 4:45:18 PM

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Yikes does not cover $1800 bucks.... it will never happen. I will go YS instead.

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RE: OS 200 - 7/7/2007 7:21:28 PM

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I have read the A. Coholic review on my new Fly RC issue and saw some spects of the engine, but has not been tryied on an airframe (too bad), looks like the engine should be run with a not so fast and smaller diameter prop according to the shown numbers, that really makes me think about the differences between this and the saito 220.

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RE: OS 200 - 7/7/2007 10:20:57 PM

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Amen to that. I just got home from vacation today and had a new MAN in my mail which has a short review on the non-FI 200 that was already mentioned. There are several things I like about the engine but for the same money of a Saito 2.20, I am still leaning towards the large Saito. I am still waiting for that Saito 2.20 on gas to show up to but so far it is a no show. I have only seen the same picture twice. No mention yet on fuel economy of this OS either. Will it do better than 1 oz per CU per minute or about the same? That is one thing that always seems to get left out of engine reviews. Impressive idle and I do like how they fed the breather tube into the carb. It supposedly creates negative crankcase pressure to draw more oil the the lower end which is a good idea. Should be a little cleaner too

. I am curious to hear this other review as well.

Anyone know what the price will be on the Y.S. 1.70 when it comes out? I haven't heard and a price isn't listed at Central Hobbies yet.

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Yikes does not cover $1800 bucks.... it will never happen. I will go YS instead.

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RE: OS 200 - 7/7/2007 10:35:12 PM

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I am still waiting for that Saito 2.20 on gas to show up to but so far it is a no show. I have only seen the same picture twice.

It is on the Saito site now.
http://www.saito-mfg.com/single-files/fg-36/fg36.html

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RE: OS 200 - 7/8/2007 4:25:03 AM

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I am still waiting for that Saito 2.20 on gas to show up to but so far it is a no show. I have only seen the same picture twice.

It is on the Saito site now.
http://www.saito-mfg.com/single-files/fg-36/fg36.html

I don't read Japanese but those #'s look real good. Almost as good as my 2.4 Brison. One # I can't see though is the price. How much ???

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RE: OS 200 - 7/8/2007 5:18:17 AM

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I have no idea on price but I believe it would be under 50 ounces in weight if you add all the grams up for the two parts and do a conversion to ounces unless they left something out on the website. Horizon still hasn't imported it yet. Maybe this will be another surprise later this year. Anyone know any hobby shops in Japan we can email? Maybe we can confirm the price of the OS 200-FI too.

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I am still waiting for that Saito 2.20 on gas to show up to but so far it is a no show. I have only seen the same picture twice.

It is on the Saito site now.
http://www.saito-mfg.com/single-files/fg-36/fg36.html

I don't read Japanese but those #'s look real good. Almost as good as my 2.4 Brison. One # I can't see though is the price. How much ???

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RE: OS 200 - 7/8/2007 7:32:28 AM

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One # I can't see though is the price. How much ???

On the site 104K Yen is mentioned
While the normal 220 goes for 87K Yen
http://www.saito-mfg.com/zeus/fa-220-zeus.html

If the same relation in prices are applied, price would not be that bad.

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RE: OS 200 - 7/8/2007 11:55:30 AM

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I won't interupt the OS200 thread any longer but this FG36 is looking really good

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RE: OS 200 - 7/8/2007 12:41:49 PM

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I wouldn't expect super power levels from the gass 4 stroke though.
Moki make a real nice 50cc petrol 4banger (available through RCS in the US) yet it's very merger with the power compared to the Moki 50cc 2 skroke options.
Interesting though.

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RE: OS 200 - 7/8/2007 9:24:14 PM

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I know and I apologize to everyone else for even bringing it up but it hard for me to talk about any new engines in this size without making comparisons between brands and even gas and glow. If this OS 200 is a lot more fuel efficient than the Saito 2.20, that would be something I would like to know even though there is a small difference in displacements so I would still expect the Saito to burn a little more. For myself, I am looking for unlimited performance for a 12-12 1/2 lb plane with a 4S and I don't want to spend $500 and be disappointed. The plane is a Goldberg Obsession and the stock tank is 24 ounces which is why gas would make sense if it was light enough but it would require major mods to make a gasser fit. The OS is lighter though and maybe by getting the AUW down, I can get the performance I need. There is definately a market for a strong and light engine in this class and I am glad to see OS bringing something to market.

bla bla, I have seen that RCS 50CC as well and wondered about it too. It is very light for its size and I didn't know it was made by Moki though so Thanks for the info. It is also cheaper than the OS 200-FI.

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I won't interupt the OS200 thread any longer but this FG36 is looking really good

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RE: OS 200 - 7/10/2007 1:36:53 AM

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Trying to interpret the Saito web site it appears that 1250 grams is the weight plus another 50g for ??? That is HEAVY.

Look at the ZDZ-40 F3A------made with pattern in mind----two stroke not four but-----??????

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RE: OS 200 - 7/10/2007 2:37:22 AM

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That is only 45.9 oz (assuming that is really everything but the battery which seems really light for a gasser) and the standard glow version is 42 oz with the muffler. A Moki 2.1 weighs 46 oz without the muffler to put that into perspective even though it is a 2S. The weight for the ZDZ you mention is 43.5 oz but doesn't include the battery or tuned pipe setup they recommend although it would be more powerful. The timing has also been altered which would not make it suitable for 3D as you already indicated. I emailed RCS asking about that engine last month because I thought it was my solution too but they said they would not recommend it for a 3D application. They recommended their standard ZDZ 40 for that application. I can PM you their response if you want. Just PM me so I don't take this too far off topic. Believe me I was disappointed because I was ready to pay it so now I am back to looking at the Saito 220 and the OS 200. I am in no hurry so I can wait to see how folks like the OS first.

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Trying to interpret the Saito web site it appears that 1250 grams is the weight plus another 50g for ??? That is HEAVY.

Look at the ZDZ-40 F3A------made with pattern in mind----two stroke not four but-----??????

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