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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/5/2007 9:06:24 AM   
opjose



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From: Poolesville, MD, USA
Status: offline 		I flew the larger one of these today, and with the C.G. set at recommended the plane had two problems.

- Not enough down thrust. We added 2 degrees of down thrust.
- Still tail heavy. The C.G. on the larger ( the smaller plane will also be proportional ) plane needs to come forward at least 1 - 1 1/2"!!!

That tip stall you saw was because the C.G. is too far back. The plane was at stall speed w/o dropping the nose. I had exactly the same experience as you.

Try moving it forward and perform a mid power turn. The nose may drop a bit, but there should be no adverse yaw. Then at altitude, try slower and slower turns. When set properly there should be almost no tendancy to drop a wing in a stall.





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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/5/2007 4:18:37 PM   
VFR_RC


 

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Status: offline 		Great tips you guys, i will go ahead and replace the nose wheel wire before maiden. I fly off grass too so i won't be using the wheel pants on the first flights. I can't wait!

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/5/2007 11:16:36 PM   
Tracon



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From: Gibsons, BC, CANADA
Status: offline 		I love mine...

I just hate the nose gear....is there somewhere we can new wheel pants ???

Sam

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/6/2007 2:38:21 AM   
opjose



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Status: offline 		I'd look at one of the Robart nose wheel struts. They will hold up better and look very scale like.

NP should be able to sell you replacement pants, but you could also use white wheel pants from other manufacturers and simply apply Ultra or Mono-coat on them to match the existing scheme.

I almost always pull of the pants until I've flown the plane for a while.

It's a good practice to engage in while you are getting the bugs out of any new plane.

You never know when you need to make a quick dead stick landing.


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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/6/2007 4:35:53 AM   
Tracon



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Status: offline 		What size Robart strut would you go with ???

Sam

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/7/2007 3:50:26 PM   
sdcranford


 

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From: Willard, MO, USA
Status: offline 		Nitromodels did not have this in stock and I got tired of waiting. Found one online for only $20 more than their retail.
I have always liked the cessna model but never found a 50 size that was scale enough. This one looks great!

Looks like I need to find a replacement nose gear, has anybody had luck with the Robart Oleo?

I will be putting a OS .46LA on it that I bought cheap from a guy at work. I will probably mount inverted as I do on most of my airplanes so I can avoid cutting the cowl on the sides. I will also probably go with an inverted muffler to direct the exaust out the bottom.

Anymore flight reports?

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/7/2007 3:59:41 PM   
Tracon



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I'm looking for two more !!!



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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/7/2007 4:10:42 PM   
sdcranford


 

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Status: offline 		There was a guy on eBay that was selling it with a Skysport 6ch for $299 BIN, I have no use for a radio as I already have a 9CAPS. I asked him how much for just the aircraft. He originally said $200, so I told him it was $135 on Nitro Models site, so he told me $185 + shipping.

Well, I dont mind paying a little extra but $50 over retail is not fair. So, I waited until the auction ended with no bids and told him I would give $185 with shipping. He accepted and I paypal'd him the money this morning. It would have been about $165 on Nitro Models site with shipping. The funny thing is, I stumbled upon this one because he didnt have CMP in the title of his auction.

I have searched all over the internet and have not been able to find anybody with them in stock. I emailed Nitro Models and posted on their support forum on RCU, they said 3-4 weeks about 1 week ago. I got impatient and decided the extra $20 is worth getting it sooner.

I hope you find them or Nitro Models gets them in stock soon!

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/7/2007 5:12:36 PM   
Tracon



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Status: offline 		Like I said I love the plane, I just hate the hardware....

Don't trust those EZ-Connectors for your Aileron and Flap servos...I switched them all out...

Sam

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/7/2007 6:36:56 PM   
sdcranford


 

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Status: offline 		I usually don't use the hardware, I dont even like most of the stuff that Great Planes sends with their arf's.
I usually use Z bends with a metal clevis on the end. And I'm sure its over kill but usually use 4-40 threaded stuff.

I am excited about an airplane this size with the detail like Corrigated control surfaces, flaps, and plug in wings.
Do the horizontal stabs plug in too?

I just got an email that my ARF shipped today and will be here friday via FedEx.

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/7/2007 7:12:56 PM   
VFR_RC


 

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Status: offline 		The horizontal stab is not designed to be plug in but it has the same principle as the wing. i guess you could mod it to be plug in.

I installed my .70 4c inverted. i rather cut the cowl on the bottom than on one side. i also installed a remote glow starter.

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/7/2007 8:42:10 PM   
sdcranford


 

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Status: offline 		So does the horizontal stab have an aluminum tube like the wing? I do not mind gluing the horizontal on, I am building a cub right now and as many great planes models you have to put glue on the stab then slide it in, well...all of your epoxy runs down the fuse, then you have to clean it up before it cures.

I mounted my engine in my UCD .46 inverted with a remote glow starter, the cub I am about finished with has a Magnum .52 4 stroke inverted and will have a remote glow starter when I put the cowl on. The one in my UCD has been that way for over a year and never had any problems.

I agree about the cowl, I would rather cut up the bottom than put any holes on the sides, I want it be as scale as possible.

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/7/2007 9:11:23 PM   
VFR_RC


 

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Status: offline 		Yes it has an aluminum tube like the wing. It also has a couple small brass tubes towards the front for alignment. I sanded the fiberglass a little and used 6 min epoxy since there's no wood for it to soak in and it didn't run down the fuse.

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/7/2007 9:23:23 PM   
traxxboy


 

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Status: offline 		A guy in my club has this plane and cant get it to fly. It has over a pound of nose weight but it still acts tail heavy. It gets what looks likes plenty of speed he gives it a little up elevator and it tip stalls. Any suggestions.

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RE: New CMP Cessna 182 .52 size - 8/7/2007 9:47:23 PM