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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/6/2007 6:33:04 PM   
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I'm still curious if its a NITRO fusion or ELECTRIC converted fusion.
Nitrohead taled with the guy and siad converted electric fusion.
But the last 2 videos show a long trail of stretched out white smoke. There wasn't any dust on the 1st run.

Could coverting the fusion to 2WD have helped?
(I've heard the Fusion's main belt is too wide that it hold's the car back like the 1/8 scale cars).

Nice Job! Right in time for 4th of July.

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/6/2007 7:11:47 PM   
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i dont know. if any where electric i would say it was the first one. the last to had a smoke trail. doubt if it was dust, dirt, or debris. looks like they went over the road with a blower.

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/6/2007 7:18:35 PM   
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for sure.

Could it have been a .28 engine in that fusion?

I read some posts where the 100mph Super Nitro Man Steve Pond.....thinks he can get to 130 in a nitro car but only with dual 2 strokes and a custom chassis.

I'm wondering how much more meaningful RPMs you can get out of a 2WD converted nitro car.
people would have done it to their 4wd tourings already and posted on youtube....right?

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/6/2007 8:25:42 PM   
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do you have any idea how fast 150mph is? even 100mph? at that speed tires rip off, plastic gears shatter and areo dynamics flip things over.

i do not think that anything out there is able to do 150 and over, it would require alminum wheels with bonded rubber, metal diffs and metal spurs and gears. then you talking about pounds of air turbulance that prevents a light weight car from going any faster.

those little parts have to really move in order to reach that speed, regular cars stay stable only because it takes less rotation to move a given distance and they weigh thousands of pounds to keep it moving against the wind.

i had a little pan car that i got up to 74mph and it would flip over, rip the foam right off and shadder spurs, the fastest r/c out there is a electric pan car which did 135mph. it is IN THE BOOKS!!! and it is proven by guennis book. i dont think you could go any faster. nitro is slower than electric keep in mind.

also the fastest street leagle car is the dodge viper venom 1000 at 256+mph. it only revs out at 6,000 rpms

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/7/2007 12:18:18 AM   
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I'm still curious if its a NITRO fusion or ELECTRIC converted fusion.
Nitrohead taled with the guy and siad converted electric fusion.
But the last 2 videos show a long trail of stretched out white smoke. There wasn't any dust on the 1st run.

Could coverting the fusion to 2WD have helped?
(I've heard the Fusion's main belt is too wide that it hold's the car back like the 1/8 scale cars).

Nice Job! Right in time for 4th of July.

Yeah I talked to Mr. Case the owner of the car, sorry boys but he said it was a converted nitro fusion to electric. And the fusion belt is extremely wide I cut my belt and spur gear in half to reduce rotational mass on the drivetrain. This little mod did improve the cars rate of acceleration.

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/7/2007 12:34:11 AM   
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Wonder why Nic did not use the electric GTR by Schumacher ??

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/7/2007 12:48:42 AM   
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Why does he convert a nitro car?

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/7/2007 2:24:46 AM   
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Why does he convert a nitro car?

4wd Touring Cars 1:10 & powerplants:

Most of the market's touring car products are designed for competitive racing on a track.
For majority of the market (where you can realistically & conveniently go and buy) gas engines are more powerful than electric motors (when it comes to pretty much standard applications in 4wd touring cars). Meaning many nitro engines you can easily hook up to your nitro car are more powerful than the fastest over the counter set up, the popular Mamba 5700 system w/ 3 Lipos, which can also be easily put into an electric car.

For that 1% here, electric helicopter & airplane motors w/ LIPO's are unfortunately "more" powerful than the most powerful 2 stroke engine from Novarossi. (Even though Gas gives you the better "miniature car" experience w/ sound and feel. Which is why its more noble to go gas vs. electric. However, the good news is that most people will never get the chance to go up against a touring car with this kind of set up, so don't worry. It just gets advertised alot here.

But in response to your question:
Nitro cars use heavier duty parts in general over electric cars to handle the torque, vibration, and revolutions of nitro engines (so they are the best shot to handle these SUPER electric motors) Stronger belts, steel parts, larger pitch gears, etc. Aluminum Chassis.

The BEST 1:10 4wd electrics use super thin belts, carbonfiber, plastic, and aluminum parts. Designed to fit all the way from stock motors, 19Turn motors, to Mamba 5700 system w/ 3 lipos.
So if you take that Heli/Airplane motor and put it in an electric touring car. The electric chassis would get thrashed. The belts & tires would disintegrate before anything. Aluminum CVDs would twist, etc.

They need to put that Heli/Airplane system in a Nitro Car, which is designed to handle more revolutions from the get go from the manufacturer. And it's not as simple as THAT, there are alot more expert modifications I have no clue about to mount the powerplant & hook up the gears, etc.

No manufacturer makes this kind of car standard (I.e. Nic Case's 130mph car) It's all expiramentation. That kind of market would be to volatile to support w/ standard RTR kits.
Some real risk taking company might do it to make some money...but very few people can actually pilot a car on the ground going that fast. Concrete is the easiest to terrarain to "RC" with going normal speeds 20-50mph but at the same time the most difficult to go super high speeds with.

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/7/2007 2:40:53 PM   
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i think mambas would only work on pan cars, because they only have a spinning solid axl. i want to try that someday...

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/8/2007 1:07:24 AM   
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if i can do 70mph i will be happy it gets pretty hairy at that speed though, my coustom pro stock/ pancar did 73, it was so light and fast that i went over a man hole cover (tiny divet in the road) and shredded the car apart. i didnt run the body like a jacka$$ so all that was left attached to the chassis was a tire, the rear axl and the motor, the servo all the tires the brand new esc and the whole front end where thrown about a hundred feet from the car.

it wasnt too expencive because i just took some scrap parts from my pancar my stock car and other misulanious parts and threw it togather. the chassis was comprised of a graphite plank, a aluminum front end and a aluminum rear axl with no suspension. i ziptied the battery down and glued the electronics to the battery, because it total length was only 9.5 inches long. i threw in a cheap no limit esc with my coustomized 10turn 540motor made up of parts from about 5 others and a servo which was the same story. and i slapped on a venom speed meter. man it was fast. it would blow most of you guys away! i named it the silver bullet.

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/9/2007 10:27:24 PM   
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I talked to Nic this morning , sorry guys but the Fusion is a Nitro Fusion converted to electric.



This brought a smile to my face miami still rules the NITRO ONROAD SCENE........u cant compete with our RS4 racer 2's!!

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/9/2007 11:16:23 PM   
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I have not quit , we will see if I can hit the 100mph mark.

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/10/2007 3:42:34 AM   
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nitrohead,

what are you trying to reach 100 with?

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/10/2007 4:59:32 AM   
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Not my ford Pinto but my Nitro Fusion.

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/10/2007 4:39:25 PM   
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you can easily hit 100mph with a pan car.

throw in some tall gearing and a 5turn motor and look out!!! no seriously, pan cars get hairy after 70mph, most of the reason is because they have minimal suspension and weigh as much as a shoe.

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RE: Nic's Fusion does 130mph!!! - 7/10/2007 5:07:18 PM   
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STR33T RAC3R , yes I have already cut the belt and pullies in half and I have addressed the gearing issue. I have only a slight interest in landspeed attemps we only do it after we are finish racing . We race for beers. Miamis mocking does not bother me and neither does yours ............................ BANANA TURBO you better watch out before you get banned from this site again.



My mocking is only in good spirt i dont wanna piss anyone off tho you guys know im just jokeing


about the schamaure doing 100MPH is something ill dout well see (nitro anyones) serpent king tryed everything he could to get it to happen but there was no way in hell it happen i think the highest he got is 87MPH and let me tell u this guy really knows his stuff..........at the moment he owns i think about 3 100+MPH RS4 racers 2.............u have the right ideas on what u wanna do but he already did the same thing.....

also rember in miami we are AT SEA LEVEL engine here make way more power than pretty much anywhere else this could be a huge factor for you depending where u live........either way good luck tho!!!!

PS what motor are planning on useing???

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